Isn't 10ball a call shot game?

pmata814

pmata814

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I was watching the 2010 fatboy challenge finals and Reyes missed the 10 ball into the top corner pocket. The ball hits the 2 rails and comes back to fall into the opposite corner pocket and he still won the rack. Why?

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pmata814 said:
I was watching the 2010 fatboy challenge finals and Reyes missed the 10 ball into the top corner pocket. The ball hits the 2 rails and comes back to fall into the opposite corner pocket and he still won the rack. Why?

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Thankfully, it isn't played that way. At Derby City, both nine and ten ball are played without call shot and, just as importantly, without jump cues.

It's never gotten in the way of having the cream rise to the top. I think it was Darren Appleton who won the 2010 Fatboy Challenge to which you have referred.
In the nine ball event, Shane Van Boening won in 2012, Dennis Orcullo took down the title in 2011, and Efren Reyes won it in 2010.
 
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Interesting...I wonder why they do that? Thx for the reply.

Btw, the match I was watching was the finals. It was reyes vs. Shuff. I didn't get to see who won though.

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pmata814 said:
Interesting...I wonder why they do that? Thx for the reply.

Btw, the match I was watching was the finals. It was reyes vs. Shuff. I didn't get to see who won though.

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Yeah, you're right. I went on memory and dogged that one. Should have looked it up.

Reyes won the 2010 Fatboy Challenge.

Still, it's always noteworthy that the "call shot" advocates claim that slop randomizes the results. The track record says otherwise.
 
You can make up any rule you want, then play by them. Sometimes the players vote on rules and other times it is up to the tournament directer.
 
Give me a slop player to play every time. Yeah they will beat you once in a while with slop, but they'll lose more than they win because of trying it rather than playing safe.
 
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Right on, and the cream will alway rise to the top.
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sjm -- Some brand of cream will always rise to the top in big events, but with no-slop rules it might be a different brand of cream.

In other words: Luck/slop can enable a lesser player to prevail against anyone in a short race. But luck will never enable a significantly lesser player to survive a gauntlet of top players near the end of a large event. Luck/slop, however, can be a key determinant of which top player beats another top player and which top player wins the event.

I prefer no-slop rules of some sort for all professional events.
 
I'm a firm believer that the better player will always win slop or no slop; however, I can't even imagine how pissed off I would be if we are hill-hill and my opponent beats me with a lucky shot, like the one Efren pulled off in the first rack, on the 10 ball. Especially when therez $3,000 difference between 1st and 2nd place! :)

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