It's 2009 ... what are we all playing?

JUANBOND - thats they way I feel when I try and play snooker. 528 shots and dont sink one. There is a small 10 foot table near me and I try it out once in a while. Its so hard- I feel like I have never played pool EVER when I play that. Then I think HOLY $HEIT, this is a small table for a snooker player , like a bar table. I cant imagine trying out a real table. The round pockets are tuff.
 
9BallBust-O said:
JUANBOND - thats they way I feel when I try and play snooker. 528 shots and dont sink one. There is a small 10 foot table near me and I try it out once in a while. Its so hard- I feel like I have never played pool EVER when I play that. Then I think HOLY $HEIT, this is a small table for a snooker player , like a bar table. I cant imagine trying out a real table. The round pockets are tuff.

Yeah, the rounded pockets are a bit<h sometimes. I started playing snooker on a 100+ year-old 10-footer that we rebuilt where I live in Danville, IL last summer. Slapped Simonis 860 on it and stretched it for days. We play with american-pool-sized balls on that thing... Talk about impossible to make a ball down the rail!!! Really hard to pot with that combination of ball and pocket size/shape. If you think the small snooker balls are tough to make, come to Danville and try big balls on a snooker table!!! We've had people over that swore they'd never come play again, only to see them back the next week to try and fine tune their cuts.

By the way, all of our snooker stats are on the website in my signature below. I'm in Tel-Aviv for a few months, so I haven't had a chance to upload the latest stats since February...
 
juanbond said:
It's funny you should ask...

My friends and I often get a little loopy after a long session of snooker or 8ball, and sometimes toy around with joke variants of pool. No-Pocket is something we've actually attempted to play on a couple of occasions. Basically, you win when your opponent pockets any ball (including the cueball). A legal shot is one in which the cueball strikes at least two balls, and at least one ball (cueball or object ball) is driven to a rail, post-first-contact.

The game often progresses with players lagging balls close to pockets, in the hopes that their opponent accidentally caroms one in. Pretty silly game, but hey, we are silly guys.

I can't believe I'm asking this but ...

What happens if you don't make a legal shot? Ball in hand? Must hit three balls next time? Is it 15 balls? How do you break? Seems like a fun game!
 
It will be like on star trek. With when you make it in one hole, it will drop down into another level or vice versa going up, having three or for levels then
you hit one ball and it goes for the opponts ball turning into some monster eating the other ball... Sorry.. haha.. Just my demented mind..
 
9-ball just doesn't make sense as a game for beginners. They may as well play 1-ball as the first 8 balls potted rarely make a difference to the result.

8-ball works for beginners and is also a great game at the pro-level. It is also more widely known.

14.1 is a game the masses could enjoy also, but seems to be not so well known worldwide.

1-pocket is more of an advanced strategy game, so I can't see the masses adapting to it in droves.
 
9BallBust-O said:
p.s. I wish snooker would come around here in the US.

Hi there,

Well it starts in August 2006 with the first major international snooker event to be staged in the United States, when we host the inaugural IBSF World Snooker Team Championships at the DoubleTree Hotel in San Jose, California.

With team events for Men, Ladies and Seniors (over 40s), we expect over three hundred players from up to fifty nations to take part.

Regards.

Alan.
 
Alan Morris said:
Hi there,

Well it starts in August 2006 with the first major international snooker event to be staged in the United States, when we host the inaugural IBSF World Snooker Team Championships at the DoubleTree Hotel in San Jose, California.

With team events for Men, Ladies and Seniors (over 40s), we expect over three hundred players from up to fifty nations to take part.

Regards.

Alan.
Well I wish snooker would take off in the US, but I can't see the IBSF ever doing it. Their events are usually lucky if they get a headline on page 15 of a local rag.

Maybe you guys can turn it into a great event...good luck!:)
Colin
 
hobokenapa said:
, are we looking at a fundamental shift at the League level and at the pro level away from 9-ball?

I hope so. I think for some people (maybe a lot) the interest in 9 ball is based on the fact that people consider it the game that requires the most skill and that it is percieved as the professional game of choice.

The pro's will play their favorite games but they will compete primarily where the money is. Right now it seems the money will be in 8 ball. Amateurs will follow the pros so I think most people will, as they always have, be playing 8 ball.

So in short I agree with Fred too.
 
hobokenapa said:
I can't believe I'm asking this but ...

What happens if you don't make a legal shot? Ball in hand? Must hit three balls next time? Is it 15 balls? How do you break? Seems like a fun game!

To be honest, it was quite some time ago and I can't remember all the specifics...

I believe what we did after any foul (less than two balls hit, no rail, scratch, etc) is that your opponent got ball-in-hand, but also got to move one object ball of his choice to any place on the table. Thus, if you foul, your opponent might take a ball from the center of the table and put it on the edge of a pocket.

Maybe someday I'll refine all the rules and post them. I never really thought anyone would be interested! It started out as a joke: "Yeah, one-pocket is tough alright, but have you tried NO-POCKET???"
 
I love to play snooker aswell...when I get my butt to Detroit I'll be practicing it again as there is a hall with a 12 footer....It's good practice for when you go back to 7 & 9 footers they look small and easy to play on...;)
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10 ball and call ball... As more money is paid out in tournaments the more people will want to play the game. The result is that there will be an even greater # of A+ players and games will need to be tougher. 8 ball will be in but I think instead of nappy felt, the tendency will be towards even tighter pockets.

The equipment is were the games will change.

No matter what we do, there will still be pros that make the game look easy. So I would doubt that equipment changes would affect TV viewer interests. Just as in golf we have easier courses for the masses and very tough ones for the pros (many are tougher anyways). In pool we will have bigger pockets for the armatures and very tight for the pros.

Felt has been an evolution just like the rails were once wood with no rubber. I do not see a reason to change the felt.
 
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