ivory ban lifted?

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I want ivory in all my cues, I want ivory in my chess men too. Well, I want half of 'em ivory and the other half ebony!
 
cueman said:
Hundreds of tons of natural death Ivory do indeed fall to the ground every year. Also Elephant herds have to be culled to keep them from over populating just like deer and elk here. Elephants have already turned much of Africa into desert just like over grazing cattle did to the SW USA. Not only does over grazing from Elephants put them in danger of extinction it also wipes out the food supply that other species live on. I wish we would let the countries in Africa that try to maintain healthy populations do their job and quit putting sanctions against them that hinder their efforts.
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Most intelligent and well reasoned post I have read on the subject.

Thank you.
 
So many fun names for ivory

Lets see, there's "the good stuff, the real stuff, all natural, ivxxx, iv0ry, good white stuff". All so the cue flippers can keep flipping their cues. And if you're making new cues with ivory, you're just stubborn.

I used to be an ivory lover. But times are changing. Why do some people stick to it like it's going to make or break a cue?

And would somebody please let the poachers know about all of the "natural death ivory" that they're missing out on?
 
greyghost said:
Yep far as I know all mammalian teeth are actually ivory as ivory disks are just evolved teeth that protrude......I want a ferrule out of Charlie Manson’s teeth....nah that would have way too crazy a hit 🤣
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Agree. By definition, I think a ferrule made from Manson's teeth would be a killer break cue. He did the killing, just didn't do the break.

All the best,
WW
 
MJB said:
Lets see, there's "the good stuff, the real stuff, all natural, ivxxx, iv0ry, good white stuff". All so the cue flippers can keep flipping their cues. And if you're making new cues with ivory, you're just stubborn.



I used to be an ivory lover. But times are changing. Why do some people stick to it like it's going to make or break a cue?



And would somebody please let the poachers know about all of the "natural death ivory" that they're missing out on?
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Nah it ain’t stubborn it’s just one of the cheaper “high end” materials makers can ohhh and ahhhj buyers with a very large upmark with. Just my opinion of course. And I don’t really mean the use as ferrules and joints.....handle stock and such sure....typical inlays? Please it was never expensive for the quantity used generally speaking.

It’s just a fancy historical throwback material commonly used lfrom before good plastics/Phenolics etc....as it was a close to a natural version of the materials we would later make manmade.

I’ll tell you a good question....how many “ivory” cues are actually fake? I’ll bet there are plenty of examples to be found. Same with silver and gold inlay.

It’s not like the general customer knows how to identify anything besides maple and that ain’t a guarantee.

Hell a young guy in his early 20s who had a players cue with the decal points and inlays or painted on whatever.....he had seen my cues and my fancy duck call, asked me if i could teach him to paint like that....

Looked at him very confused...”you mean how to finish bro? Like do a clear coat?”

Well yeah that too but how do you paint the points in so sharp?

“That’s not paint bro that’s two kinds of wood spliced together”

Blew his dog gone mind.....blew mine too.

About 6 months ago a good older friend who owns a antique shop had a ivory scrimshaw whale tooth.....wanted 500$ for it.

Told him it was fake.....then showed him a few tests to verify an invasive and a few non invasive ways.

All that “ebony” stereo equipment since oh 1990 is nothing of the sort it’s merely ebonized probably with an tincture of iron or something along those lines.

Decking companies sell wood called “Brazilian koa”.....it’s actually goncalo Alvez.....ipe is sold as Brazilian walnut when it’s a trumpet tree.

That Chilean sea bass.....really one ugly son of a gun called a toothfish

Buyer and seller beware of it all I guess


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