fast larry
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blud said:
I am playing pool fat man, when I miss, you get to shoot.
ivory ferrules
- Thread starter billfishhead
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I am playing pool fat man, when I miss, you get to shoot.
time for me to go cut up those old cue balls ive got and see if that wooley mammoth ivory will yeild some more ferrules,,,,,,,,,,,,btw the the wooley mammoth is aprox 40,000 years old and wasnt killed for the tusks to be used in the billiard industry.
i wonder how long those plastic cues will last,,,,,,,,,,,,lmao
i wonder how long those plastic cues will last,,,,,,,,,,,,lmao
fast larry
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\classiccues said:
Is there any body so far who has not claimed Mike spent his youth in their shop under their wing, who's missing? Who' buying Mikes cues any way, how lame is this one? When was the last time you saw anyone playing with a Mike cue? That is about as rare as somebody gettting into the finals with a blud or a Richard Black cue, it does not happen.
fast larry
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classiccues said:
That is because Bob makes cues that sell for $300 the average man can afford and win with. Mikes cues sell for 3 to 5K and only rich people buy them to hang on walls to brag about. Any body can load ivory on the butt and jack the price up for that, ivory never made a ball for me.
fast larry
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billfishhead said:
Wrong, he was hunted by the same preditor, a human with a spear and not an ak47. He was killed for meat and to make tools with. These mammoths are in the frozen Artic of Russia, the Ivory being sold today came from Africa and Elephants killed recently, not 40,000 years ago. That is the lamest of all the things said so far. Find a real mamoth tusk, it goes into a museum, it does not get sold and cut into ferrules, get a grip here please. You are really reaching which means you are going down by the bow.
i guess f l must think that Bill Stroud makes outdated cues because he still uses ivory ferrules
fast larry
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billfishhead said:
You said: i wonder how long those plastic cues will last,,,,,,,,,,,,lmao[/QUOTE]
You are saying we should make cues out of Ivory so they will last a century. How long does a golfer keep a driver or a putter, only a couple of years, because a newer better thing is coming along making his old club obsolete.
Same answer in pool. The problem in pool is you have these same old people making the same old technology with the same old 60's mentality. We are still using cues with wood, does Tennis or Golf, no, we are in the dark ages here. Dont make me a cue to last a life time, make me a cue that out plays any thing on the market today. If I want ivory and jewels I'll go to a jewerly store and buy a ring or braclet. The cues you guys are giving us today are about the same damn cue Balbuskea gave us 45 years ago. It's you cue makers who are the problem here, not players like me who are saying get off your asses and do something new and better please. It's possible, I have gone out and made several things I needed because you guys would not.
You people are stuck deep in the deep past, that is all you know, that is all you can see. All you are doing is trying to out pretty the next guy. Pretty does not make friggen balls boys.
fast larry
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billfishhead said:
People push and sell Ivory ferrules because they have the Ivory for almost no cost and they sell the ferrule for about $100. If they can con you to buy into that bull She yit, they make a ton of money. When that begins to work, why then tell you a 50 cent soft senthetic ferrule right off the shelf is better, what is their incentive to stop the con.
Do not ignore facts here merchants of death who peddle ivory. The two ferrules that now sell the most and have the most success with the most players are from Meucci and Preditor, neither are Ivory, neither are hard, both are thin soft ferrules that have minimual deflection.
Look, this is an argument you guys cannot win, try a cruise off of San Juan, I would stop this sensless argument, the more you argue, the more you expose who and what you are and what you are doing to the players and to the animals here. Merchants of death, give up all Ivory sales is what fast says. Move to new and better materials, become modern in your product, it is no longer 1960.
at least I know f l rant wasnt about me, as Im not a cue maker
"Is 274 in straight enough, or holding the world record at rotation, 75 balls, 5 racks call shot, running 8 racks of both 8 and 9 ball, holding the break record at both 8 and 9 ball, making 8 balls on the snap, running 3 racks of cribbage, running a 10 at 3-cushion, running a century on a english 1925 6x12, yes virginia, Fast can run 3 friggin balls, contrary to what the bozos are telling you" - Fast Larry
So, you run 274 in straight pool, hold a world record in rotation (Efren's pretty good at that game, since you're the "world record" holder....sure....why don't you play him some?), the "break record" (which I've never heard of) at 8 and 9 ball, run 8 racks of 8 and 9 ball (is that 8 racks total...or 8 consecutive racks). Wow Pocoloco..I know the pro's on tour were glad you never competed. You really let them off easy. You're running "so many" balls, how come you don't step up and snap off some tourneys and cash from gambling with these tremendous skills you so cheerfully boast about? How come you're "waisting" your time on here and not out winning the cash gambling?
For someone who seems to constantly boast of his world tours, you're always posting on here. I apologize to everyone else for me being negative and sarcastic, but it just gets old.
Larry, does contribute some positive - good information on here sometimes, but if someone disagrees with you all of the sudden they can't run three friggin' balls. Well, I don't always agree with you Larry, and I guarantee I can run three friggin' balls. And although I'm becoming less of a pool player and more of a family guy since I've been married and have my first child on the way, I will still POST UP!
So, you run 274 in straight pool, hold a world record in rotation (Efren's pretty good at that game, since you're the "world record" holder....sure....why don't you play him some?), the "break record" (which I've never heard of) at 8 and 9 ball, run 8 racks of 8 and 9 ball (is that 8 racks total...or 8 consecutive racks). Wow Pocoloco..I know the pro's on tour were glad you never competed. You really let them off easy. You're running "so many" balls, how come you don't step up and snap off some tourneys and cash from gambling with these tremendous skills you so cheerfully boast about? How come you're "waisting" your time on here and not out winning the cash gambling?
For someone who seems to constantly boast of his world tours, you're always posting on here. I apologize to everyone else for me being negative and sarcastic, but it just gets old.
Larry, does contribute some positive - good information on here sometimes, but if someone disagrees with you all of the sudden they can't run three friggin' balls. Well, I don't always agree with you Larry, and I guarantee I can run three friggin' balls. And although I'm becoming less of a pool player and more of a family guy since I've been married and have my first child on the way, I will still POST UP!
Pretty does not make friggen balls boys.fast larry said:
[/QUOTE]Thats right... pretty doesn't make balls. All you have to do is look at official and I stress, official, records of this sport. 13 or more racks of 9, 526 balls, etc.. I would venture that none of these records were accomplished using your newer technology. In fact its worth mentioning that Mosconi's 526 was done with a Rambow. Some records were done with a Cuetec or Schon. But the fact is, its the indian and not the arrow.
Another thing, this isn't golf, its not tennis, its not bowling, its not fly fishing, its not chess or tiddlywinks, its pool. In golf, the sport you keep using for bad anologies, new courses with different parameters open monthly, tee lengths change constantly, hell even the balls change etc.. pool is a game played under a set set of parameters. I don't need a cue to drive 400 yards from the tee. All newer technology shafts help you with is "less" compensation. Now its totally depending on your playing style is if its important to you. This is why there are people out there using these types of cues that can beat the stuffing out of guys using new cues and vice versa.
BTW ivory is still 150 a pound or so, take into account waste from cutting, etc.. ivory ferrules can be costly.
You ever take into account the loss of wildlife when a new mountain is dug up for slate? or when new rigs are set for oil, a main ingrediant for any polymer based products like balls, and Meucci's?
Joe
fast larry
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classiccues said:Pretty does not make friggen balls boys.
Thats right... pretty doesn't make balls. All you have to do is look at official and I stress, official, records of this sport. 13 or more racks of 9, 526 balls, etc.. I would venture that none of these records were accomplished using your newer technology. In fact its worth mentioning that Mosconi's 526 was done with a Rambow. Some records were done with a Cuetec or Schon. But the fact is, its the indian and not the arrow.
Another thing, this isn't golf, its not tennis, its not bowling, its not fly fishing, its not chess or tiddlywinks, its pool. In golf, the sport you keep using for bad anologies, new courses with different parameters open monthly, tee lengths change constantly, hell even the balls change etc.. pool is a game played under a set set of parameters. I don't need a cue to drive 400 yards from the tee. All newer technology shafts help you with is "less" compensation. Now its totally depending on your playing style is if its important to you. This is why there are people out there using these types of cues that can beat the stuffing out of guys using new cues and vice versa.
BTW ivory is still 150 a pound or so, take into account waste from cutting, etc.. ivory ferrules can be costly.
You ever take into account the loss of wildlife when a new mountain is dug up for slate? or when new rigs are set for oil, a main ingrediant for any polymer based products like balls, and Meucci's?
Joe[/QUOTE]
Ah so, another Mechant of Death weights in and Id's him self, let's make a list of these guys, perhaps that can be published. These lame ass arguments keep getting worse and worse. Mosconi ran 526 in 53 because that was the only ferrule he could get. He did not have a choice. If he had a red dot or a 314 then to choose, it's a damn good bet he would have used it.
Your other lame ass argument, yes I would go for a chunk of a hill to be mined or a tree to be cut in place of a tooth to be hacked out of a still alive Elephant because the killer is too cheap to spend another bullet in the head to put him out of his misery. I have video tapes of this, would you like a copy, it would make any animal lover puke in horror.
My 925 and 693 Persimmon head drivers with my 60's shafts might drive the ball 270. Metal head drives and Graphite shafts now drive the ball 60 yards further. That is the point you choose to lose, because to admit it, exposes your failures in your cue making advances, there have been no advances.
Look at golf, because of the new technology, Jones, Hogan, Nicklaus each step up to Tiger benefited with better clubs and better performance.
Would any one walk on to Winbleton or into the Masters today with a wood racket or wood shafted clubs, but you guys keep selling us the same old she yet, year after year and nobody until right now, me, has ever stepped up and said, Bull Shit, this needs to change and change now.
Ivory ferrules is so lame, why do you guys even keep defending this. It only shows you are stuck 45 years deep into the past and will not wake up to todays modern materials. Oh, I forgot, you don't give a she yet about performance, you guys are making pretty, wall hangers, collectables, investment cues, custome cues for the board bozos. Buy my high priced cue with a ivory ferrule and get an elephant shot in the head with an ak47 rifle. You should see the warehouses over there, tusks are stacked up to the roofs.
Ok, who's the next mercant of death to come in and post, bring it on. I am taking names, tell me who you are.
classiccues said:Pretty does not make friggen balls boys.
Thats right... pretty doesn't make balls. All you have to do is look at official and I stress, official, records of this sport. 13 or more racks of 9, 526 balls, etc.. I would venture that none of these records were accomplished using your newer technology. In fact its worth mentioning that Mosconi's 526 was done with a Rambow. Some records were done with a Cuetec or Schon. But the fact is, its the indian and not the arrow.
Another thing, this isn't golf, its not tennis, its not bowling, its not fly fishing, its not chess or tiddlywinks, its pool. In golf, the sport you keep using for bad anologies, new courses with different parameters open monthly, tee lengths change constantly, hell even the balls change etc.. pool is a game played under a set set of parameters. I don't need a cue to drive 400 yards from the tee. All newer technology shafts help you with is "less" compensation. Now its totally depending on your playing style is if its important to you. This is why there are people out there using these types of cues that can beat the stuffing out of guys using new cues and vice versa.
BTW ivory is still 150 a pound or so, take into account waste from cutting, etc.. ivory ferrules can be costly.
You ever take into account the loss of wildlife when a new mountain is dug up for slate? or when new rigs are set for oil, a main ingrediant for any polymer based products like balls, and Meucci's?
Joe[/QUOTE]
Joe, your right on to this guys bull shit.
Larry is a sick person. His EGO, has got the best of him.. Just because someone disagrees with him, they are dumb.
He's clueless about how to treat people.
Besides, who want to play with plastic, now a days.
blud
fast larry
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Ok blud, lets see, when I expose your little ivory ferrule con your post this about me:
Joe, your right on to this guys bull shit.
Larry is a sick person. His EGO, has got the best of him.. Just because someone disagrees with him, they are dumb.
He's clueless about how to treat people.
Besides, who want to play with plastic, now a days.
blud
I post the truth to help players, to save them from you and that makes me sick. I play with a Meucci, with a plastic ferrrule and a plastic joint. It plays great, I love it, that's why. My 1960's cues with Ivory ferrules are retired and hang on my walls next to my 1960's persimmon head golf drivers who were retired for the same reason, they had seen better days and new things came along to take their place. Yes I use a steel driver today. It broke my heart to hang up my 925's, but life moves forward. I used to pay $600 to $1000 for one of these now. Today I can buy a driver from Kmart for $100 that will blow my ball past that old wooden head club. That is progress, that was in my best interest as a player. That is what you sir and your pals are trying to prevent happening in pool. That is why you keep selling us cues from the past. You want us paying high prices, you could care less about what you sell us in performance.
I expose that, this now makes me sick?
It made you sick to see me expose this would be my bet.
Joe, your right on to this guys bull shit.
Larry is a sick person. His EGO, has got the best of him.. Just because someone disagrees with him, they are dumb.
He's clueless about how to treat people.
Besides, who want to play with plastic, now a days.
blud
I post the truth to help players, to save them from you and that makes me sick. I play with a Meucci, with a plastic ferrrule and a plastic joint. It plays great, I love it, that's why. My 1960's cues with Ivory ferrules are retired and hang on my walls next to my 1960's persimmon head golf drivers who were retired for the same reason, they had seen better days and new things came along to take their place. Yes I use a steel driver today. It broke my heart to hang up my 925's, but life moves forward. I used to pay $600 to $1000 for one of these now. Today I can buy a driver from Kmart for $100 that will blow my ball past that old wooden head club. That is progress, that was in my best interest as a player. That is what you sir and your pals are trying to prevent happening in pool. That is why you keep selling us cues from the past. You want us paying high prices, you could care less about what you sell us in performance.
I expose that, this now makes me sick?
It made you sick to see me expose this would be my bet.
not at all
Larry
You don't make me sick. I am sad for you, you and your screwed up EGO...
Your self-centered and missing a bunch in life because of it, Larry.
You should except the fact that I will continue to use whatever I want on my cues.[ ivory included] You can't change my mind. We all have opinions.
However, most of us have to be re-minded that when you speak, we should all stand at attention. Bull SHIT, larry. You have the right to believe whatever. So do all of us....
meucci gave all his players cues instead of money for wages. I was there and saw it, first hand.
My cues have a proven record of preformance.
I NEVER ONCE PAID ANY PRO-PLAYERS. I could not aford to pay them. If i could of, I still would not of paid a penny. Don't believe in paying for falshoods and words that are not truthfull...
Good products sell without [money] lies.
It's been proven, that words can be purchased......It's all about money.
Now Larry leave this alone.
I will never agree with you. By doing this, does not make either of us dumb....
Hopefully you have enough class to do just that.Leave it alone.......
blud
fast larry said:Ok blud, lets see, when I expose your little ivory ferrule con your post this about me:
Joe, your right on to this guys bull shit.
Larry is a sick person. His EGO, has got the best of him.. Just because someone disagrees with him, they are dumb.
He's clueless about how to treat people.
Besides, who want to play with plastic, now a days.
blud
I post the truth to help players, to save them from you and that makes me sick. I play with a Meucci, with a plastic ferrrule and a plastic joint. It plays great, I love it, that's why. My 1960's cues with Ivory ferrules are retired and hang on my walls next to my 1960's persimmon head golf drivers who were retired for the same reason, they had seen better days and new things came along to take their place. Yes I use a steel driver today. It broke my heart to hang up my 925's, but life moves forward. I used to pay $600 to $1000 for one of these now. Today I can buy a driver from Kmart for $100 that will blow my ball past that old wooden head club. That is progress, that was in my best interest as a player. That is what you sir and your pals are trying to prevent happening in pool. That is why you keep selling us cues from the past. You want us paying high prices, you could care less about what you sell us in performance.
I expose that, this now makes me sick?
It made you sick to see me expose this would be my bet.
Larry
You don't make me sick. I am sad for you, you and your screwed up EGO...
Your self-centered and missing a bunch in life because of it, Larry.
You should except the fact that I will continue to use whatever I want on my cues.[ ivory included] You can't change my mind. We all have opinions.
However, most of us have to be re-minded that when you speak, we should all stand at attention. Bull SHIT, larry. You have the right to believe whatever. So do all of us....
meucci gave all his players cues instead of money for wages. I was there and saw it, first hand.
My cues have a proven record of preformance.
I NEVER ONCE PAID ANY PRO-PLAYERS. I could not aford to pay them. If i could of, I still would not of paid a penny. Don't believe in paying for falshoods and words that are not truthfull...
Good products sell without [money] lies.
It's been proven, that words can be purchased......It's all about money.
Now Larry leave this alone.
I will never agree with you. By doing this, does not make either of us dumb....
Hopefully you have enough class to do just that.Leave it alone.......
blud
fast larry said:
So I have know read you say in different threads that you do not play 9 Ball or One pocket, but you do "fantasy European Artistic shots" (whatever the hell that is). I don't know what makes you think you are the god of pool, because you don't even play pool. If One Pocket is for losers who can't run balls and want to hide their weak skills, then why is One Pocket THE game that all the champions are matching up at. Oh, I forgot...Efren, Cliff Joyner, Alex Pagulayan, Shannon Daulton, etc. are all losers and have weak skills. And while I'm thinkng of it, If One Pocket is a game for losers, and Blud can give you three balls at it, what does that make you?
Larry, you really should seek some professional help. I have a friend who is a shrink that could help you. He specializes in helping individuals who constantly put down other people, and lie about themselves.
fast larry
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blud said:
Sure blud, just to show you I do have class, I'll be happy to leave this alone, this is going now where but downhill fast. It's time we all bail out now while we still can. Let the attacks rain in on me, call me what you will, I am off this thread and out of here. Bye Bye boys.
May God bless and peace be with you. May the wind be always on your back and all 9 balls fall. VENI VIDI VICI, OMNIA VINCIT AMOR. Latin for “I came, I saw, I conquered, love conquerors all. Yes I really did do it all and you can believe it, or not. If you don’t believe it, C’est La Vie. A prophet is not recognized in his own land. Rack em sausage, Go play fast and loose. In time, it’s all dust in the wind anyway.
fast larry
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Worminator said:
Sure no problem, send him to me, I can use help. I have several friends who are doctors in different fields. A couple of surgeons and a shink. I've been on the couch a couple of times, it's nice to review who you are and where you are going. They mostly get you talking and have you talk out your own problems. If I could, and I had the time and the money, I would do a short session every day. Few of us are perfect, the truth is, we all need a little help now and then. Send your guy to me, prepay his fee, I'll be happy to do a session with him, thanks for the offer to help me, I am most appreciative of your concern for my health.
My concern is also for the health of the Elephants and yes sir I realize being concerned about them makes me a sick person. I'll work on my problem until your guy arrives. I am sure he will correct my problem.
May God bless and peace be with you. May the wind be always on your back and all 9 balls fall. VENI VIDI VICI, OMNIA VINCIT AMOR. Latin for “I came, I saw, I conquered, love conquerors all. Yes I really did do it all and you can believe it, or not. If you don’t believe it, C’est La Vie. A prophet is not recognized in his own land. Rack em sausage, Go play fast and loose. In time, it’s all dust in the wind anyway.
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plastics are petrolium distilates,,,,,,,,,,,yeah I remember the exxon valdez. f l is just as irresponsible for using plastic to ruin our ecosystem. probibly more irresponsable. after all im not putting more oil platforms out in the gulf and alaska right now
