ivory joints
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dave sutton
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Well when I do my Reg joints I do .625 Id phenolic. Trim it to 750 OD. Then slide the collar over with a 750 id to 850 OD finished size.
Will look like this
Will look like this
Eric Wynne
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Ivory was great 50 or more years ago , but there are far superior materials available now . If you have to have ivory then suffer . It's not a question of if it's going to fail , it's a question of when ...
dave sutton
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Ivory was great 50 or more years ago , but there are far superior materials available now . If you have to have ivory then suffer . It's not a question of if it's going to fail , it's a question of when ...
You know. I was just waiting for someone to say that. I strongly disagree. Who says there are better materials? Better in what way? To me there is no better material then ivory. ESP when value is concerned. Look at all the big cues. None of them have holly or other white materials substituted for ivory. So there are ups and downs to both materials but to say one is "better" then the other is completely false.
I personally love ivory. I made myself a cue with an ivory joint and ivory ferrule with no collars just because I love it so much. I break with it, and break hard too. I've played other cues with ivory doing the same thing and have never had one crack on me. To me, ivory is the most desirable material out there. Yes, there are other materials that are better in some ways and may be more structurally sound or even cheaper, but when it comes to value, aesthetics and quality of hit, ivory can't be beat. To the OP - as long as you have the right knowledge and application, you can't lose. Good Luck.
I am not sure about the cues he mentioned, but my experiences are similar. The flat faced cues that I have used to draw the ball are overall better at that particular shot than most of the piloted joint cues I have shot with. There are exceptions, but generally the piloted jointed cues did not give as much cue ball action as the flat faced joint cues did. That is one reason I have built very few piloted joints.
ivory or steel
so as i was reading this and saw the many terms like capped vs sleeved, i was wondering what you would call the joint in the black boars.
to my knowledge, and please correct me if i'm wrong, but is he the only one that does this?
and what is the construction of this? i haven't seen down the pin to see the base of the pilot well.
any insight into how it's made and what the hit feels like? SS or ivory.
thx, jason
so as i was reading this and saw the many terms like capped vs sleeved, i was wondering what you would call the joint in the black boars.
to my knowledge, and please correct me if i'm wrong, but is he the only one that does this?
and what is the construction of this? i haven't seen down the pin to see the base of the pilot well.
any insight into how it's made and what the hit feels like? SS or ivory.
thx, jason
dave sutton
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Well Tony basically sleeves the ivory over a SS joint so it's kinda capped and sleeved. It sure it cuts weight and adds some feel but I think it's more for looks. It's interesting. I bet it plays interesting.
Pete tascarella puts a SS insert in his ivory joints. I guess to add structure and firm up the hit a bit. I bet that plays interesting too.
dave sutton
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Here are some pics I saved
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Tascarella
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Tascarella
I would think that the different ferrule and tip combinations on the cues would have much more of an impact in this test than the joint composition.
dave sutton
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I agree. I think for tip to buttcap is the order of importance. With that being said I don't know what it's like to struggle with my stroke. I've always had too good of a stroke. So I never understood all the gimmicks. I can draw just as far with a predator as a tiger and a regular wood shaft. Never had a problem there so I don't see where flat face would result differently.