Jax payout

ScottW said:
Everyone's an amateur, until they're not.

My guess is this kid won't be playing any more amateur events after his recent performance.


You are right about that, but Charlie had to know how this kid plays or he wouldnt have been invited to the pro tournament. Last year one of his Jr invites won the open event and did well in the pro event also.
 
Yeah my buddy said more than a few folks were discussing how they had to first watch the kid run 150 and out against santos and then get up and play the kid even. Another buddy of mine who is 19 got beat twice in the juniors event...both times by that german kid.
 
As far as the Jacksonville payouts, it is what it is, and I definitely understand why some folks are distraught, for lack of a better word, thinking they should get a bigger piece of the pie.

That said, I realize that in order to put on these events, there are huge expenses. After all, to keep Dragon Promotions afloat, they need to make a profit at events.

I know that most regional tours take out 25 to 33-1/3 percent of all monies collected for expenses. It kind of sucks, but the only way the TDs and promoters can keep it going is to pay for the expenses. Nobody is going to do these events for free.

I learned the hard way when I first started traveling with my boyfriend on the tournament trail, paying attention to expenses.

You have tournaments that are GUARANTEED, ADDED, and GUARANTEED ADDED in the descriptions of the tournaments.

Today, if I am interested in traveling to a tournament, I'm going to study the advertisement about it. I want to know if the GUARANTEED monies of $1,000, for example, is based on a 640-player field. That way, if I think that 640 players ain't showing up, I know there will not be $1,000 added, maybe only $100 added. :D

There are some tournament promoters/directors who have a sterling reputation in the industry, and whatever they produce or direct, their track record speaks for itself. I tend to like to go to these kind of events, if at all possible. :p

JAM
 
Randy9Ball said:
Jim,

I agree with your asessment of the tournament 100%. By the way, are you the gentleman JoeyA introduced me to? If so, it was a pleasure meeting you sir!

Regards,

Randy

Back at ya Randy. Sorry I couldn't say bye to you and Joey but we had to split right after the Mika/Crosby 10 Ball match.

Regards,
Jim
 
Expenses

Entry fee-$100
Hotels-$200
Gas-$160
Food-$125
Prostitutes and gambling- $priceless!!!
 
There are two tournaments that would cost you a lot less, closer to you and you stand a better chance of cashing in on. Both on the weekend,
Friday night (8-ball 10$) at the gold lion 7:30 start.
Saturday at (9-ball 10$ bar adds to pot) Breakers in Merritt Island 1:00 practice 2:00 start.
 
Dominic Jentch- THE BABY SHARKER

uwate said:
I spoke with a buddy who went to the event. He cashed 17-24th, got back his entry and a few bucks ($100 total) and he promptly donated that cnote to SVB playing Shane some even up sets of races to 5 for 25.

My buddy told me a few things that I'll pass on here. First, that 16year old German kid who ran 150 and out in the 14.1 event snapped off the Junior event and the Open event. They also played the junior event on the 9ft tables, whereas the Open event and the Senior event was played on pretty bad 8ft tables.

I didn't win any bucks in the Open Amateur Division or the Senior's division. The 16 year old was my first match of the day. His name is Dominick Jentch or something close to that. He played very well but as soon as I broke and ran the first rack, he started sharking me. Whenever I faced his direction just as I was starting to concentrate on my stroke, he would quickly, move his hand from the top of the shaft to the joint, all the while holding the stick in a vertical position. He would often combine the hand movement with another quick move to his mouth as if he was wiping some milk that had seeped from his lips.

The first time he did it, I just refocused or tried to refocus and then missed the shot. The second time he did it (the following game) I looked rather sternly in his direction and he made sure not to look at me. The third time he did it I could feel my temper getting hot. These were all quick movements and because he was so young, I didn't want to seem like the biggest azzhole of the tournament but I couldn't contain myself any longer and finally walked over to him and told him sternly that I would appreciate it if he wouldn't move his hand down and up on his shaft while I was facing his direction. He grinned sheepishly, nodded and said something that sounded like "I'm sorry" so I let it go but "IT" already had me. I played a horrible match against him and anyone that was willing to get on the table with me.

Dominick Jentch (THE BABY SHARKER) from Germany plays far too well to stoop to such tactics to win. I hope that he learns something from his mentor Thorsten Hohmann who IS THE PERFECT GENTLEMAN at the pool table against all opponents, no matter what the score. Thorsten is that way away from the table as well and I made sure to tell him that when I crossed his path this weekend.

I did notice that throughout the rest of the tournament, THE BABY SHARKER, no longer sharked anyone else. I imagine that my constant glaring at him and whispering to anyone who would listen had something to do with that. :rolleyes: Yeah, right.......:D
JoeyA
 
Too bad Joey. You're more of a gentleman than I am.

Once could be inadvertant.

Twice is sharking at which point I tell him to stop...report the incidendts to the TD and ask any neutral bystanders to watch for it. The TD is permitted to rely on "trusted observers" in making such calls.

And unless I'm mistaken, unsportsmanlike conduct warnings follow the offender from match to match. I don't think you get "one warning per match" but rather can be sanctioned for repeat conduct at any time during the tournament.

HALF the reason to do the above is to pissoff the offender which is a good way of "getting even."

Of course, I would find out if his father was there...how big he was...and how many of my pals...size large...were in the room at the time!

(-:

But I would have traded sharkers in every match for cushions that would bank within 1/4 diamond of true and would rebound balls within 20% of the same speed for a given shot off each rail.

At least I can shark back but nothing can be done about tables that play like you're on a cruise ship at sea.

JoeyA said:
I didn't win any bucks in the Open Amateur Division or the Senior's division. The 16 year old was my first match of the day. His name is Dominick Jentch or something close to that. He played very well but as soon as I broke and ran the first rack, he started sharking me. Whenever I faced his direction just as I was starting to concentrate on my stroke, he would quickly, move his hand from the top of the shaft to the joint, all the while holding the stick in a vertical position. He would often combine the hand movement with another quick move to his mouth as if he was wiping some milk that had seeped from his lips.

The first time he did it, I just refocused or tried to refocus and then missed the shot. The second time he did it (the following game) I looked rather sternly in his direction and he made sure not to look at me. The third time he did it I could feel my temper getting hot. These were all quick movements and because he was so young, I didn't want to seem like the biggest azzhole of the tournament but I couldn't contain myself any longer and finally walked over to him and told him sternly that I would appreciate it if he wouldn't move his hand down and up on his shaft while I was facing his direction. He grinned sheepishly, nodded and said something that sounded like "I'm sorry" so I let it go but "IT" already had me. I played a horrible match against him and anyone that was willing to get on the table with me.

Dominick Jentch (THE BABY SHARKER) from Germany plays far too well to stoop to such tactics to win. I hope that he learns something from his mentor Thorsten Hohmann who IS THE PERFECT GENTLEMAN at the pool table against all opponents, no matter what the score. Thorsten is that way away from the table as well and I made sure to tell him that when I crossed his path this weekend.

I did notice that throughout the rest of the tournament, THE BABY SHARKER, no longer sharked anyone else. I imagine that my constant glaring at him and whispering to anyone who would listen had something to do with that. :rolleyes: Yeah, right.......:D
JoeyA
 
wow

chipperd said:
I just got back from Jacksonville. I competed in the amatuer tournament and finished in the top ten. I didn't even cover half my expenses. If I have gotten 3rd place, I would barely broken even, in a field of 91 players. I only live 2 hours away. There was almost $9000 in the pot, and it only paid back about $6000. That is 1/3 taken out! I also can't believe the condition of the tables, this was supposed to be a "US Amatuer Open". The tournaments seem to be paying less and less, If billiard companys want to promote the game, they need to start adding a little "cheese" to these tournaments.
SEEMS AS NO TOUR OF INDEPENDENT CAN RUN A TOURNY WITHOUT ,PENCHING THE MONEY!!!!what going on ???:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
jay helfert said:
I don't believe in gouging the players entry money. I have often seen where an outrageous amount is taken from them before anything goes into the prize fund. This to me is very wrong. And it has been the case for years in several high profile amateur events that I'm aware of. For instance I'm aware of one such event where many hundreds of players pay a $75 entry fee and the first prize is always $5,000 and second usually about $2,000. Total pay out is in the neighborhood of $25,000 when well over double that was collected in entry fees.

I've always been pretty good on figuring out the numbers and when I see stuff like that, it bugs me. And I suspect many amateur players can do the addition as well.

Right you are Jay. It took me about 10 minutes after counting that 2,000 before I was wondering where the rest went...
 
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