Jay Helfert, from Tommy Joe

Tommy Joe

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Yes Jay, I told you who I was in an earlier thread, a month or so ago, but that thread was dying down and maybe you didn't read it. I didn't want to clog up the cue-maker thread, so I'm sending this here. I probably could have figured how to reach you personally had I taken the time, but I'm an impatient person, plus I have to go to work in a short time. I'm driving a cab here in Winston Salem. Why? I don't know. That's another story.

Anyway, I hung out at Penthouse Billiards in Hollywood from the late 60s through about 1980. That place went downt the tubes. Maybe I had something to do with it. Seems that's the trend with me. Everywhere I go goes downhill shortly after I arrive.

I started driving a cab out there in 1978 and continued with that into 1991, at which time I left L.A. for Pennsyvlania, which is where I'm from. In the mid 80s I hung out at Hollywood Billiards, which is how I know you. I used to get in the B tournaments Arne Satin put on. I was never in stroke at that stage. I didn't play enough. At least that was my excuse, as good as any.

I remember once playing you on the front table in the tournament, not really wanting to be there, not feeling too enthused about it, the way the tournament seemed to drag, just sort of wanting to get it over with so I could move on to getting drunk, and I remember taking my cue and rolling it through the balls on the table and just quitting on the spot. I was actually a pretty good player, in my own brain anyway, but I never lived up to my potential, which could be said about many aspects of my life beyond the pool table. I played at about the level of Tom Wiley and Fred Guarino. I'm using them as examples because you might remember them from Hollywood Billiards. They had a very slight edge in 9 ball, but I had a big edge in straight pool, even not in stroke. My uncle (now dead), hung out at Penthouse Billiards. His name was Freddie Joseph. He was a very good player who rarely ventured beyond his own room.

The guys I knew and hung out with mainly at Hollywood Billiards were Wally and Jack Moussa and Matt Gibson. I knew everybody there. I used to play 3 cushion too and always enjoyed it. I was not bad at that game. I liked some of the players, but mainly the non-players, including Ted the Vulture. I also hung out with The Back (Joel Solomon), and in fact, as far as I know, I'm the guy who gave him that nickname. Do you remember The Back? Yes, I heard about Moose, and I was sorry to hear it. I genuinely liked the guy. He was a cave-man artist. He had a way of livening things up. When Moose walked into the room I'd feel like the place was coming alive. Anyway, I'm Tommy Joe, but some people may have called me TJ or just Tommy.

Tommy Joe
 
Just trying to help. You can click on anyones name and you get an option of sending a private message to that person. The person will get it and you can talk with them via PMs. I know Jay checks his because I have bugged him in the past about poker.:p Anyways if you already new that and just wanted to talk to him publicly I appolagize for the interference. You stated you didn't know how to get ahold of him so....yep...pms are the way to go.
 
Tommy Joe said:
Yes Jay, I told you who I was in an earlier thread, a month or so ago, but that thread was dying down and maybe you didn't read it. I didn't want to clog up the cue-maker thread, so I'm sending this here. I probably could have figured how to reach you personally had I taken the time, but I'm an impatient person, plus I have to go to work in a short time. I'm driving a cab here in Winston Salem. Why? I don't know. That's another story.

Anyway, I hung out at Penthouse Billiards in Hollywood from the late 60s through about 1980. That place went downt the tubes. Maybe I had something to do with it. Seems that's the trend with me. Everywhere I go goes downhill shortly after I arrive.

I started driving a cab out there in 1978 and continued with that into 1991, at which time I left L.A. for Pennsyvlania, which is where I'm from. In the mid 80s I hung out at Hollywood Billiards, which is how I know you. I used to get in the B tournaments Arne Satin put on. I was never in stroke at that stage. I didn't play enough. At least that was my excuse, as good as any.

I remember once playing you on the front table in the tournament, not really wanting to be there, not feeling too enthused about it, the way the tournament seemed to drag, just sort of wanting to get it over with so I could move on to getting drunk, and I remember taking my cue and rolling it through the balls on the table and just quitting on the spot. I was actually a pretty good player, in my own brain anyway, but I never lived up to my potential, which could be said about many aspects of my life beyond the pool table. I played at about the level of Tom Wiley and Fred Guarino. I'm using them as examples because you might remember them from Hollywood Billiards. They had a very slight edge in 9 ball, but I had a big edge in straight pool, even not in stroke. My uncle (now dead), hung out at Penthouse Billiards. His name was Freddie Joseph. He was a very good player who rarely ventured beyond his own room.

The guys I knew and hung out with mainly at Hollywood Billiards were Wally and Jack Moussa and Matt Gibson. I knew everybody there. I used to play 3 cushion too and always enjoyed it. I was not bad at that game. I liked some of the players, but mainly the non-players, including Ted the Vulture. I also hung out with The Back (Joel Solomon), and in fact, as far as I know, I'm the guy who gave him that nickname. Do you remember The Back? Yes, I heard about Moose, and I was sorry to hear it. I genuinely liked the guy. He was a cave-man artist. He had a way of livening things up. When Moose walked into the room I'd feel like the place was coming alive. Anyway, I'm Tommy Joe, but some people may have called me TJ or just Tommy.

Tommy Joe

Hey Tommy. Glad you are alive and well. You always could play. Probably play better now, with maturity. I went up to Penthouse a few times and played a couple of guys years ago, in the 70's. And gambled with Bob, the cue repair guy at Hollywood in the 80's. We played all night once and my little daughter Heather slept in a chair (poor kid). He made me play him $10 9-Ball until I busted him. $200 later I woke up Heather and took her to breakfast at Denny's on Sunset.

What a Dad that poor kid had. She turned out all right though and has two little ones of her own and a wonderful hubby.
 
Harvywallbanger said:
Just trying to help. You can click on anyones name and you get an option of sending a private message to that person. The person will get it and you can talk with them via PMs.


OK, but since this thread is already started, can we continue talking here? hah hah hah hah hah

Actually, I knew there had to be some way other than posting here, but I was not kidding in my post when I said I was in a hurry to get out the door to drive the cab. I'm an impatient person, but I don't have time to explain right now. Yes, I will do that from now on with personal messages. Thanks for telling me. In fact, I think I'll try it right now.

Tommy Joe
 
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