Joe Tucker's Racking Secrets and a question.

At the BCA Trade Show a friend(a pro) was doing a interview about breaking the balls, so just for fun I slugged him real good after he spent 5 minutes talking to the interview guy's tape recorder. Brutal. Next rack I racked it right.
 
When I get the question, "Any problems with the rack?" usually I just say, "No, I just like to look at it!"

Never had a problem after that answer.

Flex
 
Nice Discussion...Where Do I Send My Check?

I am not a big proponent of PayPal, as used by the Joe Tucker's site, is there an alternative source for this DVD? I have checked Amazon, Seyberts, B Warehouse, and PoolDawg. Any other suggestions or recommendations?

BTW, I do not even have a PayPal account and they send me emails to update my information!?!

To comment on the checking racks...I consider it routine if not a moral responsibility to inspect ALL racks.

As with golf...every shot counts! While others may scoff at the inspection, they are not playing with my money.
 
sidepocket said:
I am not a big proponent of PayPal, as used by the Joe Tucker's site, is there an alternative source for this DVD? I have checked Amazon, Seyberts, B Warehouse, and PoolDawg. Any other suggestions or recommendations?

BTW, I do not even have a PayPal account and they send me emails to update my information!?!

To comment on the checking racks...I consider it routine if not a moral responsibility to inspect ALL racks.

As with golf...every shot counts! While others may scoff at the inspection, they are not playing with my money.
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The emails to update your information are phishing scams. Forward them to spoof@paypal.com.

I bought mine (Racking Secret's DVD) of a website just the other day Here is the link. You don't need paypal - just a credit card. Enjoy!

BVal
 
Joe's DVD gives you some real life like experience in Break Shots. In his book RACKING SECRETS, Joe gives us some info on how to break in 10 Ball. There are more than 2 or 3 possibilities for makingball on the break.

Spaces will help you out in 9-Ball & good racks can assist you in 10 Ball... Joe has given us all some useful info, that we can use to raise our skill level.

Most folks really don't understand the full importance of a good break shot, but Joe Tucker can help you learn...
 
Ed...Joe T has been "on the map" for many years already. Racking Secrets was published many years ago, and has been a favorite "out of print" book for years. Joe did a great favor to all of us when he re-released the book, first in Ceebee's book on breaking, and again by putting it on dvds! Way to go Joe!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Ed Simmons said:
You really put yourself on the map with this one.
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It's a great book,learn me alot about the rack.I wished he talked about breaking on 7 ft. diamonds, or if wing ball goes in like on 9 ft.
 
BVal said:
I got Joe Tucker's Racking Secrets in the mail yesterday and watched it last night.
Let me say I think this dvd is awesome. I can't believe I waited this long to buy it.
I highly recommend it to everyone who is serious about obtaining excellent knowledge.
I really liked what he said about 10-ball and the reasons it is better than 9-ball.
It also explains (in my mind) why SVB is so dominant at 10-ball. The break is much more important than the rack (opposite of 9-ball).

I do have one question for anyone out there. I normally do not check the racks unless I see a ball roll or something like that. I am going to start looking at all the racks more closely. Now my question is. Is there anyone out there that already looks at A LOT of racks? How do you deal with your opponents while checking thier rack (Little comments or things they say).
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Cheezy Poofs,

If I am playing in a tournament or playing in a money game, and it is not rack your own, I ALWAYS CHECK EVERY RACK... NO EXCEPTION. I do this for a few of reasons:

- The head ball could have rolled off after the racker walked away (and maybe not enough to notice from the front of the table).
- The racker could be intentionally trying to give me a bad rack.
- If there are gaps behind the 9 ball (9 ball, not 10 ball), I want to know what side they are on.

Oddly enough, no one has ever complained about me checking their racks. I wonder why that is?

Regardless, I always give my opponent a good rack and I expect the same in return. I strongly suggest that you start checking your opponent's rack, especially in 9 ball where the rack is SO important. The last 9 ball world championships were a testament to this.

Ray
 
Rack my own FTW :)

I need to just go ahead and get this DVD already.
 
BigCat said:
Cheezy Poofs,

If I am playing in a tournament or playing in a money game, and it is not rack your own, I ALWAYS CHECK EVERY RACK... NO EXCEPTION. I do this for a few of reasons:

- The head ball could have rolled off after the racker walked away (and maybe not enough to notice from the front of the table).
- The racker could be intentionally trying to give me a bad rack.
- If there are gaps behind the 9 ball (9 ball, not 10 ball), I want to know what side they are on.

Oddly enough, no one has ever complained about me checking their racks. I wonder why that is?

Regardless, I always give my opponent a good rack and I expect the same in return. I strongly suggest that you start checking your opponent's rack, especially in 9 ball where the rack is SO important. The last 9 ball world championships were a testament to this.

Ray
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Thanks for the advice Ray.

Yeah I really wonder why nobody complains to you....LOL.

If you were me - would you complain to you? :)

BVal
 
ShootingArts said:
I check racks. When folks ask if there is a problem I reply, "Nope, just looking for something to exploit!"

Any surprise I get very tight racks after that? :D

Hu
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Right. I can't imagine why anyone would NOT check the racks especially since some imperfections are in favor of the breaker!!

Regards,
Jim
 
ne14tennis said:
I just finished refereeing the Texas State BCA Championships last week.

I know that you all are mostly talking about 9 Ball, and Joe's DVD's also talk about 8 Ball and other games (I have them too).

There was none of the usual sniping about racks since the BCAPL events are "Rack Your Own". I can't remember one instance of a player complaining about the rack that the breaker gave himself.

Having watched Joe's videos, I wonder if the same would hold true for a 9 Ball tourney since you can improve your chances by manipulating a 9 Ball rack?
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At a recent rack your own tournament , I watched a guy send the 9 Ball toward the left corner pocket FIVE TIMES IN A ROW and make it TWICE and the opponent just sat there like a fool.

Properly racked, the 9 Ball CAN'T move much without being kicked so the racker probably just kept using advice that I assume is in Joe T's DVD as to where to leave gaps to guarantee 9 Ball movement.

Haven't gotten the DVD yet but will soon.

Regards,
Jim
 
what about this reply to a guy that doesn't seem to like you checking his racks.....

oh, i just like to check and make sure the balls aren't racked so the 9ball flies toward the corner, that would be unfair.

then if you ever do want a rerack maybe hell be more apt to oblige you, haha.
 
av84fun said:
Properly racked, the 9 Ball CAN'T move much without being kicked so the racker probably just kept using advice that I assume is in Joe T's DVD as to where to leave gaps to guarantee 9 Ball movement.

Regards,
Jim
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Years ago I was taught how to break in 9 ball by someone who learned from Gene Nagy. A very high percentage of the time, I got the 9 ball moving toward one of the corner pockets and often made it. It wasn't kicked, either. At the time, I didn't play well enough to get out if it didn't go. I got out of playing 9 ball as often as I used to, and haven't been able to get the break down again. Now, I play 9 ball very infrequently, and haven't worked on it lately. Gary Pinkowski was taught to break by Gene and broke pretty well long before all the theories of how to break were being touted.
 
Pushout said:
Years ago I was taught how to break in 9 ball by someone who learned from Gene Nagy. A very high percentage of the time, I got the 9 ball moving toward one of the corner pockets and often made it. It wasn't kicked, either. At the time, I didn't play well enough to get out if it didn't go. I got out of playing 9 ball as often as I used to, and haven't been able to get the break down again. Now, I play 9 ball very infrequently, and haven't worked on it lately. Gary Pinkowski was taught to break by Gene and broke pretty well long before all the theories of how to break were being touted.
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Joe's DVD is not theory. :)

BVal
 
BVal said:
Joe's DVD is not theory. :)

BVal
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And I never said it was. I have the book but haven't seen the DVD yet, unfortunately. I was referring to all the theories of how to break that people have come up with over the years, including breaking from the side rail, which I've never been personally comfortable with.
At the time, I always broke from on or around the spot. I don't remember anyone breaking from the side at that time. Late '70s, I think. I remember breaking with the cue at a somewhat jacked up angle and aimed to hit the 1 full in the face and squat the cue ball somewhere between the side pockets. I think this was a common attempt at the time, but different people had different ways of doing it. I've never been able to get the angle down pat again. I broke with my playing cue, a Joss East custom with a steel joint, Champion tips, and ivory ferrules.
 
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Pushout said:
And I never said it was. I have the book but haven't seen the DVD yet, unfortunately. I was referring to all the theories of how to break that people have come up with over the years, including breaking from the side rail, which I've never been personally comfortable with.
At the time, I always broke from on or around the spot. I don't remember anyone breaking from the side at that time. Late '70s, I think. I remember breaking with the cue at a somewhat jacked up angle and aimed to hit the 1 full in the face and squat the cue ball somewhere between the side pockets. I think this was a common attempt at the time, but different people had different ways of doing it. I've never been able to get the angle down pat again. I broke with my playing cue, a Joss East custom with a steel joint, Champion tips, and ivory ferrules.
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My bad :)

I have never seen the book but I have the DVD. From the DVD it tells you where abouts to break from depending on the gaps in the rack. So it is more on how the rack is set up not so much the place you break from.

BVal
 
BVal said:
My bad :)

I have never seen the book but I have the DVD. From the DVD it tells you where abouts to break from depending on the gaps in the rack. So it is more on how the rack is set up not so much the place you break from.

BVal
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Book does the same. I've won a lot of racks because of that book. It's also the reason I always check the rack.
 
So last night I had league (8 ball). We were the away team so I only got to break twice. With my two breaks I had amazing results.

1. My opponent racked the balls and I was standing there waiting for him to finish to shake hands and say good luck. When he lifted the rack I saw a tiny gap between the 6 and the 8. I took position on the opposite side of the gap and SNAPPED THE 8! It was such a great feeling.

2. I did the same thing as the first rack and was able to check the rack while shaking hands and wishing good luck. I saw the same gap and did the same thing. The 8 went towards the side pocket but hit just below it and came back out towards the middle of the table. I made a stripe and a solid on the break. I proceeded to run out.

So on my two breaks I had an 8 ball break and a break and run. In my mind the book has already paid for itself.

Joe I can't thank you enough and I can't believe I didn't but this DVD sooner.

BVal
 
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