John Barton VS Lou Figueroa

I think some confuse disagreeing with hate and hate with death.

Not at all. Although some disagree hatefully.

I have a better idea than you betting with me against Lou.

I will stake Stan Shuffet to play you. $10,000 for anything you both agree on.
 
Not at all. Although some disagree hatefully.

I have a better idea than you betting with me against Lou.

I will stake Stan Shuffet to play you. $10,000 for anything you both agree on.

Out of the hundreds or thousands of betting "offers" you've made on here and 1P, has there ever been even one time, outside of posting for this match, that any money changed hands? It's gotten to the point of a tiresome joke.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be on Lou's arse, too, if he wrote page-long responses every day that included challenging everybody to a bet, especially if he backtracked already. I'm hoping that this match takes place soon, because it's been made more obnoxious than interesting.
 
Not at all. Although some disagree hatefully.

I have a better idea than you betting with me against Lou.

I will stake Stan Shuffet to play you. $10,000 for anything you both agree on.

I'll pass ,Stan has a fine game.Keep telling yourself you got the best of it. It won't be Lou beating you ,it will be you.Hope the melt down don't start to early in the match.
 
Did John Barton used to be known as John Collins? If so I see woofing as far back as 2002 or 2001.
This thing has matured slower than some savings bonds.
 
Out of the hundreds or thousands of betting "offers" you've made on here and 1P, has there ever been even one time, outside of posting for this match, that any money changed hands? It's gotten to the point of a tiresome joke.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be on Lou's arse, too, if he wrote page-long responses every day that included challenging everybody to a bet, especially if he backtracked already. I'm hoping that this match takes place soon, because it's been made more obnoxious than interesting.

No because when I make an offer the other side realizes that they don't believe enough in their point to put money on it.
 
I'll pass ,Stan has a fine game.Keep telling yourself you got the best of it. It won't be Lou beating you ,it will be you.Hope the melt down don't start to early in the match.

Keep dreaming that this is what will happen. But you're right that this is the only way Lou beats me.
 
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Will the Vbookie be open for this match?
I'll wager some vcash.
Why is there not more VBookie matches!?
I've got this vcash that's burning a hole to get out of my stash.

Please let the VBookie open up the wager window.


Rob.M
 
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I do like them both, and I really agree on what Roger said about why we "hate" someone. Now I am hooked, I wish they both good luck and enjoy the match.

I like them both too.

By the way, am I the only one who has played them both?

I remember one time in St Louis I played a couple 9-ball races to 7 and a couple 14.1 games to 100 with Lou. And I remember another time in Las Vegas I played 6 9-ball races to 5 with John Barton--four of them on a shimmed bar box and the other two on a 9' at the Cue Club....

I have no horse in this race....
 
No because when I make an offer the other side realizes that they don't believe enough in their point to put money on it.

Have you been to the Action section lately? If you can't get people to take your bets, they either don't take you seriously or consider you bad action and I don't think they consider you bad action.
 
I like them both too.

By the way, am I the only one who has played them both?

I remember one time in St Louis I played a couple 9-ball races to 7 and a couple 14.1 games to 100 with Lou. And I remember another time in Las Vegas I played 6 9-ball races to 5 with John Barton--four of them on a shimmed bar box and the other two on a 9' at the Cue Club....

I have no horse in this race....

No Mike. I have played them both also. In fact, I have played all three of you. :smile:

JoeyA
 
I woke this morning and realized that my post was just as mean-spirited as the ones that he had written about others in the past and that is why I have removed mine. Apologies to the forum.

JoeyA
 
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No offense taken Sean. I guess your post deserves a response from my perspective.

Lou has denigrated and ridiculed good and decent people on this forum, FOR YEARS, simply because they have different beliefs than he does and I am fairly sure that you have NEVER admonished him for his despicable behavior. Why? I don't know.

Sean, you're a decent guy. Even if you disagree with someone you don't take the disagreement to the point of intentionally trying to ridicule someone over what they believe or practice. You may disagree with someone but you get your point across and leave it alone. That's what a gentleman does.

Lou isn't a gentleman unfortunately, despite the front that he puts on for most of us and he has been given the opportunity to be one.

Actually I think it is more than that. He has been given the opportunity to be a friend by more than one person on this forum but he prefers to be a forum bully and a self-righteous, pompous ass, more than to get along with people.

Sorry, but Lou has made his bed and he likes it this way. He doesn't apologize for his ways, doesn't plan to change his despicable behavior and that's just Lou.

I guess after all these years I am glad to see Lou getting just a little bit of what he has been giving others for years.

I think what is particularly funny is Lou came into my town much like John did in St. Louis, when I wasn't at my pool room and couldn't wait to get back to his laptop to spread rumors about anything negative about me that he could find. :D

Lou is a gossiper and a person who spins the truth to meet his own agenda and his agenda is often an intention to hurt or injure.

He's just getting a little bit of what he has been giving others for all these years. I guess it's overdue. In a way I'm sorry to say that I'm most likely fanning the flames. I'll bow out unless there is additional reasons to respond. I thought you deserved a response.

JoeyA

When I read you calling Lou a bully, I let slide, but the only way for anything you wrote above to be true would be by changing "Lou" to "John".
 
No offense taken Sean. I guess your post deserves a response from my perspective.

Lou has denigrated and ridiculed good and decent people on this forum, FOR YEARS, simply because they have different beliefs than he does and I am fairly sure that you have NEVER admonished him for his despicable behavior. Why? I don't know.

Sean, you're a decent guy. Even if you disagree with someone you don't take the disagreement to the point of intentionally trying to ridicule someone over what they believe or practice. You may disagree with someone but you get your point across and leave it alone. That's what a gentleman does.

Lou isn't a gentleman unfortunately, despite the front that he puts on for most of us and he has been given the opportunity to be one.

Actually I think it is more than that. He has been given the opportunity to be a friend by more than one person on this forum but he prefers to be a forum bully and a self-righteous, pompous ass, more than to get along with people.

Sorry, but Lou has made his bed and he likes it this way. He doesn't apologize for his ways, doesn't plan to change his despicable behavior and that's just Lou.

I guess after all these years I am glad to see Lou getting just a little bit of what he has been giving others for years.

I think what is particularly funny is Lou came into my town much like John did in St. Louis, when I wasn't at my pool room and couldn't wait to get back to his laptop to spread rumors about anything negative about me that he could find. :D

Lou is a gossiper and a person who spins the truth to meet his own agenda and his agenda is often an intention to hurt or injure.

He's just getting a little bit of what he has been giving others for all these years. I guess it's overdue. In a way I'm sorry to say that I'm most likely fanning the flames. I'll bow out unless there is additional reasons to respond. I thought you deserved a response.

JoeyA

Joey, I hope you will take this post, as intended, and please realize, for a change I am dead serious !.. All of my chiding, and pot shots at you and John, regarding your obsession(s) with aiming systems..have been just that..POT SHOTS !..I even thought you and I had a little fun with it, until you started parroting John Barton's OFTEN repeated sentiments !

I admit, I am a nay-sayer, and always will be !..I think 'aiming systems' are fine..for teaching beginner's, how to try and shoot balls in the hole..But, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with teaching the fundamental, and correct 'mechanics' of learning the game...I'm sure Mr. Shuffett can teach THOSE principles as well as anyone...But, he prefers to give his aiming method(s) TOP BILLING, as the ONLY way to advance a layman's skills !..I just heartily disagree, which I guess sounds blasphemous, because with you and John, it is a RELIGION !

Lou is also a 'naysayer' the only difference in our mindsets, is Lou does not kid around. It is NOT in his personality to joke around, so he comes right out and calls you and John idiots !..You guys and him go much further back than I do, but Joey, YOU are way out of line, in attacking his character, the way you did in this post !..

In reading your indictment of him, you act as though his insulting you or John, are worthy of at least 20 years in prison..So what if he's taken a adversarial stance, toward all the other A.S.S guys, or maybe even 'gossiped' a little ? What do you call YOUR post ?...For Chrissake Joey, its only Poolroom banter...Just like Barton, you are trying to make him sound like
Charles Manson !!!

You are just repeating the things John has said about him, at least 500 times, in the past few weeks alone ! ..We get it..You don't like us !..In case you haven't noticed, there are a ton of people on this forum, who think just like 'Duckie' (post #119) John runs into them every thread he enters, he just refuses to admit they exist..Don't let him suck you into his paranoia, are you blind to the fact that he is UNBEARABLY obnoxious ?

Let them have their battle next month, and get it over with !...Its just a Goddamn pool game, it ain't world war III, like
John is trying to make it ! (he does love/crave the attention, don't he ?)


Chill out Joey,...One berserk, ranting, raving "A.S.S." guy is quite enough ! :sorry:

Dick
 
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