John Schmidt BANNED from Viking Tour

[JMB]

Let me tell you something my friend. If John Schmidt won the tournament, he would expect a piece from the guy who bought him in the Calcutta. That is, if he wasn't already in for half. These "Player Auctions" have been around in pool forever. They are part of the game, just as money games in the backroom are. And the players are willing participants. Have you ever been to the U.S. Open, the biggest tournament in the US? If you have, you know of what I speak.
Whether Calcuttas or Auctions are legal is not the issue here. The issue, as I see it, is for a "professional player" not to show up for his match. How do you think they deal with this on the PGA Tour and the ATP tennis tour? Major fines for a no show, unless it's medical or serious family emergency, and even then they must communicate with the tournament director beforehand. I salute Mike Janis for the stand he has taken. To forfeit a match for no reason other than a golf date is way wrong in a pro tournament. People paid money to see the Pros play. I suspect on the IPT that might be cause for expulsion from the tour.
I like John Schmidt and think he is a great player. How I would handle this situation I'm not sure. Yes it has happened in tournaments I've run and things have gotten ugly sometimes. But I will not second guess Mike Janis judgement in making this call. He has to do what he believes is best for the integrity of his tour.

Thank you Mr. Helfert. My opinion exactly regarding this latest incident. (I dom't know john schmidt, but have observed many times seems there is always some questions about the money.)

 

[Timberly]

(I dom't know john schmidt, but have observed many times seems there is always some questions about the money.)

What you are seeing is the SAME couple of people (who are buddies) on here repeatedly trying to make John look bad. As soon as another pool player pisses one of these yahoo's off, they'll be on here talking about that person and then you'll always see "some questions about the money" when it comes to that player. C'mon people, look at the freaking source of the majority of the sh!t being thrown into the fan around here.

 

[vagabond]

Thank you Mr. Helfert. My opinion exactly regarding this latest incident. (I dom't know john schmidt, but have observed many times seems there is always some questions about the money.)

hi,
John is not as bad as some one trying to depict him as.he is very sociable and friendly guy and ofcourse a great player.

 

[JMB]

What you are seeing is the SAME couple of people (who are buddies) on here repeatedly trying to make John look bad. As soon as another pool player pisses one of these yahoo's off, they'll be on here talking about that person and then you'll always see "some questions about the money" when it comes to that player. C'mon people, look at the freaking source of the majority of the sh!t being thrown into the fan around here.

Timberly, your quoting me on your reply and saying that I and a buddy are always barking or picking on players. I do not have a friend on this board. My thoughts and opinions are mine and mine only. YOU seem to be one who likes to throw stones without any knowledge of what the Hell you are talking about. I suggest you spend some of the time that you have free to skip this site and logon to the ladies home journal website. (although I'm not sure you qualify)

 

[Timberly]

Timberly, your quoting me on your reply and saying that I and a buddy are always barking or picking on players. I do not have a friend on this board. My thoughts and opinions are mine and mine only. YOU seem to be one who likes to throw stones without any knowledge of what the Hell you are talking about. I suggest you spend some of the time that you have free to skip this site and logon to the ladies home journal website. (although I'm not sure you qualify)

WOW, a little touchy huh? Now, please go back and re-read what I said.... I said what you are SEEING, not what you are saying. YOU said you keep seeing things on here about John & money problems. I simply pointed out that the OTHER people saying these things are the same people.

No, I wouldn't qualify for the ladies home journal because I don't give two sh!ts about cooking, decorating, fashion, etc. I care about what I enjoy, which happens to be pool and many of the people involved in it. If you don't like what I have to say, then by all means put me on ignore.

 

[JDB]

Timberly, your quoting me on your reply and saying that I and a buddy are always barking or picking on players. I do not have a friend on this board. My thoughts and opinions are mine and mine only. YOU seem to be one who likes to throw stones without any knowledge of what the Hell you are talking about. I suggest you spend some of the time that you have free to skip this site and logon to the ladies home journal website. (although I'm not sure you qualify)

Actually, what she said to you was that she thought you were basing your opinion based on what the other guys were saying about John (who were the two "buddies"). She wasn't saying that you were one of the people who were bashing him.

Just for clarity... Your attack was really not warranted, IMO.

 

[lamar25]

Are you going to play in that $45,000 bar-box tournament in northern California at the casino?

JAM

Hey Jam,
I like your new Aviator!!!
"Have a nice day",
Lamar

 

[lamar25]

Thank you Mr. Helfert. My opinion exactly regarding this latest incident. (I dom't know john schmidt, but have observed many times seems there is always some questions about the money.)

Hey JMB,
It seems to me you have stepped into a world that you know nothing off.

"Have a nice day",
Lamar

 

[lamar25]

Let me tell you something my friend. If John Schmidt won the tournament, he would expect a piece from the guy who bought him in the Calcutta. That is, if he wasn't already in for half. These "Player Auctions" have been around in pool forever. They are part of the game, just as money games in the backroom are. And the players are willing participants. Have you ever been to the U.S. Open, the biggest tournament in the US? If you have, you know of what I speak.
Whether Calcuttas or Auctions are legal is not the issue here. The issue, as I see it, is for a "professional player" not to show up for his match. How do you think they deal with this on the PGA Tour and the ATP tennis tour? Major fines for a no show, unless it's medical or serious family emergency, and even then they must communicate with the tournament director beforehand. I salute Mike Janis for the stand he has taken. To forfeit a match for no reason other than a golf date is way wrong in a pro tournament. People paid money to see the Pros play. I suspect on the IPT that might be cause for expulsion from the tour.
I like John Schmidt and think he is a great player. How I would handle this situation I'm not sure. Yes it has happened in tournaments I've run and things have gotten ugly sometimes. But I will not second guess Mike Janis judgement in making this call. He has to do what he believes is best for the integrity of his tour.

Hey Jay Helfert,
I just wanted to say thanks to you for making this post!!!

"Have a nice day",
Lamar