Murray Tucker said:
Your last post layed It out perfectly for me, thanks a ton for the info. That gives me the ability to figure any given size pin I may need to install, and some kind of formula to go by, and lets me know that the reamer is a good idea As I expected. Also letting me know that is alright not to bottom the pin. That was a conflicting issue for me since I am paticular about tenon size and bores being snug fitted just right, so naturally i was afraid It would be considered sloppy for the pin not to be tight with the bottom. Getting It right 3 or even 4 out of 5 times guessing/eyeballing at It is just not acceptable for me, and having a system is more My style, and will help greatly. I do apprietiate it. By you explaining how undersized It is, It allows Me to figure the rest of the sizes out for Myself. Sure I can get lucky and turn a good one out that hits good, but I would like everyone of my cues like that. I'm not too bad at figuring things out on My own, but must addmit I am no different then anyone else in the way I do It. Research, and I over analize everything, which can be good as far as brainstorming, or can be non productive and lead to burnout when piled on top of each other. Trial in error still comes in to play with an educated Guess, and disasters are sure to happen just the same. By asking you guys who have long since been there and done that, It will help me focus on bigger issues. Also with funds being limited as they always are, I know what bits and reamers I need up front instead of the old trial and error method that we all love so much. So needless to say can't thank you guys enough.
On the Glue- I believe you are correct, I pretty much figured I had done it by accident this paticular time. LOL, the blowout actually occured When showing My father how to to install a pin, and we both thought I might have got too much glue in the hole before we snugged it, and then heard a pop after snugged. Did not notice till later after pulling it out what had happened. Guess I better leave the lessons to someone more qualified for now LOL. He was smart enough to notice what happened ahead as well, so guess thats a good sign. He's a jam up tip/repair guy, but has pretty much encourged me to learn and helps out when he can. He is the only person that benifits from My knowledge, so I have no desire to share secrets with anyone not worthy. Without him, I would have never made it this far, even though I still have a ways to go. We do keep It in the family so to speak, and anyone true blue that opens up and helps with out expecting in return becomes part of that to us, and I would give the shirt off my back if i had to. ofcoarse that Kind of trust comes over time, and is getting harder to find these days, but I have noticed that there are those in this hobby that have nothing to gain and everything to loose, and they are still willing to help someone like me, with me knowing that if they are making a living, their time alone is valueable because this stuff does'nt happen over night. This is very inspiring to me, as long as there are good people around Me, I can keep food on the table, and do what I love, I would be happy just getting by. I was not born the most unfortunate person in the world, but sure was not born with a silver spoon either. Allot of My knocks were the hard ones, and don't expect to be my last, but that is how wisdom is truelly gained in my humble opinion. In My Opinion the pool industry as a whole does not get the credit it deserves. I heard It said somewhere that if you are a player, you can walk into any pool hall, and you will see the same faces, you can pick the players out of the room, And something like- what is it about this passion that brings so many people together from all different backgrounds and trades. This rings true for me at least where I am at. The pool hall We shoot at is non smoking, and stays pretty packed. We can leave our sticks, and all our stuff by our table to walk outside, knowing there can be as many as twenty people that will notice if someone tries to walk out with our stuff. Now this place is alot nicer, and in my younger years shooting spent plenty of time in places I probably would'nt now just to get a game of pool, But the best way to find out whos who, is to throw a bunch of people in a dark little one room bar with 1 or if lucky 2 tables night after night, and add alcohol. You learn alot about people. You find whos there to play simply because they love the game just like you, and and a few other things also. Some of those people still shoot with us today, and are very good friends, we have taught, and learned from each other over the years. Now the sport is growing at a rapid pace, and league has brought more in over the last 4-5 years, we have met even more people as time goes on, and probably stay busy with work from people We know Not to mention word of mouth, if I can just get everything fixed around here, and setup shop. I hate turning work away because We don't have the time with all the repair, rebuilding the larger area for a shop that needs done first, sure could use the funds, then Maybe I could Pay someone else to do It for Us, Ah Well, Firsts Things First. hopefully I can get all that taken within this year and be on My way turning stock, and setting up better.
I would never give away anything I saw in someone's shop, I have had a couple of offers to check shops out, One was a decent size producer now days that started out small, also does good work, even have one of his cues from the old days, and another was small but did beautifull work. they were'nt too far away to drive, but Unfortunatly time passed and with everything that's been going on never got a chance to call and set a time up. Could kick My'self in the butt for that.
On the centering you are correct that was one of the reasons I ask. I had one pickup a bad chatter between the handle and bottom of the forearm, and hacked It up on me. It was a thin butt, I was able to save It, and make it roll straight, thinned the butt out more though, It shoots very well and solid for a thin butt, but I can't sell something like that to anyone, so there's another player cue in the collection for me and pops. I am amazed at how precise you have to be on the pins, because I could not see much runout at all before tapering and this was using the back of My tool in the tool post to gauge It by. I guess you guys are correct the is Obvious enough "indicator". I have a machinist buddy thats helped me out and milled some mounts for me before I just got the minimill, he said he had an extra indicator he'd give me. Does'nt have a base, but I am sure with a purchase of a few cutting tools for the mill I could slap something together to mount It, need to start tooling that thing up anyway. Guess I should give him a ring and check It out. I don't know much about what type I need, Seems like I've seen 2 types for sale, one was priced reasonable and the other was quite expensive. I think he said his had a nylon ball/contact on it, but don't know if It's suitable. I would imagine that anything to gauge by would better than the back of a cutting tool. You guys think It's worth hitting him up for, or should I just buy one?
Also My tailstock and headstock seemed lined up, so It leads me to think that if theres a problem chucking, and It's on the back side of the headstock, even the 2 chucks in relation to each other, or steady location. I can see where an indicator would help me trace that down, to see what I am doing wrong. By seeing the highest point on the indicator and know precisly what angle to rechuck at would probably be easier. I guess I take It for granted I can do It by eye, and just being too dog gone cheap. time to breakdown and get one, and be done with It.
Please let me know what you two guys think I should get for an indicator.
You Guys are KOOOL in My book, no matter what they say about you, LOL (one of my Pops old day Leg twisters) Man, seems like that was from my days, Guess they will be calling me pops before long. Sure have enough gray hair. Does that Meen Your Wiser, or just had too much dust in Your hair? I'm Sure It's just a tale. Thanks Again guys it's good to know you.
Greg
