Josey Sneaky vs. Custom

bud02 said:
I pointed that fact out, and I also pointed out that you did not address his only question as well.

I'm leaving now its clear you feel you have a need to dictate this threads content. I won't be a part of distracting from the OPers concerns. I leave you to govern the Josey only thread. Maybe someone will address his question about the comparison of Josey's SP and a Josey custom.

BTW you are on my a$$, heres your original comment. I find it very disingenuous you deny it. At the same time not replying to the original "comparison" question yourself.


Just where is he asking for Josey experiences? He asked for a Josey comparison. Maybe you should stay on topic as well.

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I personally think my post has more relevance than someone that owns a Josey dancing around in the tread saying Josey makes an awesome cue. Which he does BTW.
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Again...reading comprehension....he asked TWO questions...the second of which I addressed, since I happen to own both types of shafts.

I will contact the other Josey owners who own non-blanked Joseys to respond to the OPs initial question. I did not address that question, because my cue is from a blank I supplied. I do not believe in BSing someone about a specific type of cue I am not personally familiar with.

At least I stayed on topic.

Lisa
 
Have I mentioned on here that I love my Josey? Yeah...more than once! :thumbup:
 
Wow bud02... who pi$$ed in your Wheaties? You were certainly off topic in your first response IMO.

I have owned and played with both types of Joseys the OP mentioned. My personal preference is to go with the Josey Custom vs the Sneakies made from the blanks. I prefer it to to be cuemaker's cue start to finish. If I wanted a Sneaky, I would go with a Blackcreek, since Travis makes his own blanks.

As far as playability between a Josey Custom and a Josey sneaky, you will probably not notice a tremendous amount of difference since so much of the playability comes from the joint, shaft, and ferrule, which will be the same on both cues.

Keith and Sherri are two of the finest people in the industry... and which ever Josey cue you decide on, you will get a great product with outstanding personal customer service.

Hope this helps...
 
I have had my Josey custom player for almost 4 years now, and would not want to buy any other cue. I have a Bob Frey sneaky that I travel with also.
 

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9 on the snap said:
I have had my Josey custom player for almost 4 years now, and would not want to buy any other cue. I have a Bob Frey sneaky that I travel with also.
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Very nice cue! I love these traditionally pointed cues from Keith. Thanks so much for sharing!

Lisa
 
Mine is also a Josey traditional pointed cue...so mine is one he did from "scratch".

A guy in the hall I play in has a Josey "fancy sneaky" with linen wrap. So, naturally, we swapped cues for an afternoon...played an hour or two with the other's cue.

When we traded back, we both agreed it was remarkable how similar they were in feel, hit, etc. Maybe I shouldn't say similar...they felt identical. His cue was several years older than mine...but still, they felt identical.

This suggests to me that Keith Josey cues are very consistant from cue to cue. This gives me some peace of mind should the unthinkable happen & my cue get lost or stolen. Not likely to get stolen...I take it to the john with me. ;)
 
pwd72s said:
Not likely to get stolen...I take it to the john with me. ;)
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Does this mean you stand at least 58" away from the urinal? Guy next to you looks over and says "nice one." :D


Thanks for your cue comparison "identical" gives me pretty strong confidence in whatever I'll get.
 
LOL!

Seriously...I love my Josey. But a caution, not everybody likes the hit.
Stiff, but with great feedback.
However, if you don't like the hit?
You'd have no problem selling the cue. I've been reading the for sale section here for quite some time. Josey is a name that doesn't come up often. Josey isn't a collector's cue...it's a players cue.
 
ridewiththewind said:
Very nice cue! I love these traditionally pointed cues from Keith. Thanks so much for sharing!

Lisa
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I really like your cue as well. I see you have a timeless timber shaft. I am curious as how it hits compared to the standard josey shaft (which I love). I was thinking of having Keith making me one, but I would probably have to send him my cue I am thinking, and I don't want to be without it.
 
9 on the snap said:
I really like your cue as well. I see you have a timeless timber shaft. I am curious as how it hits compared to the standard josey shaft (which I love). I was thinking of having Keith making me one, but I would probably have to send him my cue I am thinking, and I don't want to be without it.
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I feel the TT shafts are stiffer than the standard Josey shaft. Not a whole lot stiffer, because the standard shaft is stiff as it is, but it is definitely stiffer. I love mine! I have shorter ferrules on my shafts, and that combined with the TT shaft, makes for a lower deflection shaft, without laminations, boring, coring, inserts, or otherwise. The CB goes exactly where I tell it to....even when I tell it wrong...LoL! Mine is also slightly heavier than the standard shaft. Bear in mind that the TT shafts are turned from old growth lake-submerged timber....makes for a high ring count, high density shaft. I hope to add another before Keith runs out of his stock...because when it's gone, it's gone.

Talk to Keith or Sherri...they may well have the specs recorded for your particular cue and can do the shaft without you needing to send them the cue. Also, if you have the standard Josey stacked rings (which it appears you do), that should be no problem to match up either. I would suggest giving them a call and asking. Certainly couldn't hurt!

Lisa
 
9 on the snap said:
I really like your cue as well. I see you have a timeless timber shaft. I am curious as how it hits compared to the standard josey shaft (which I love). I was thinking of having Keith making me one, but I would probably have to send him my cue I am thinking, and I don't want to be without it.
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Aye, there's the rub. Having to play with something else is not a fun thought. Says a lot for the cue, doesn't it?

I had Jim Baxter make a sert of matching JP's for mine...they came out great! Will try to post a pic...and of the cue, tho I'm a lousy photog.
 

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pwd72s said:
Aye, there's the rub. Having to play with something else is not a fun thought. Says a lot for the cue, doesn't it?

I had Jim Baxter make a sert of matching JP's for mine...they came out great! Will try to post a pic...and of the cue, tho I'm a lousy photog.
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Jim did a great job on those! Match the veneers perfectly....like the veneer colors too.
 
Jason...as you can see, Josey cue owners are pretty passionate about their cues, and like myself, couldn't imagine not having it to play with.
 
angldemn said:
I hard a very time finding negative comments about them, and am waiting on a reply back from a seller at this moment.

The worst I could find is here:

https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~peer/pool-cues.html

1 in 1000 is hardly a concern though.
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Not even sure I consider that a negative review. Because Peer is right -- the Josey cues with standard or TT shafts are NOT low deflection at all. Not even close. But that isn't necessarily a negative. Some people like standard shafts with regular deflection.

I've owned a few Josey sneakys and loved them all. I played with the standard shafts and also with Predators and OB-1 shafts on them. I would buy another Josey in a heartbeat. I didn't really want to sell my last Josey but it wasn't financially prudent to hang out to it when I received another order on a different custom.
 
shinobi said:
Not even sure I consider that a negative review. Because Peer is right -- the Josey cues with standard or TT shafts are NOT low deflection at all. Not even close.
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That's kinda disappointing to hear.

Keith's first sentence on his cues page is, "All of my cues are known for their solid hit with very little deflection."

Reviewers on this site say this is the case some even stating they needed no adjustment time from their previous predator shafts.

I do enjoy the feel of my current player, a nice Pechauer, but would prefer it had a bit less deflection to account for. Having a stiff solid cue
with minimal deflection seems like a dream, and perhaps that's all it is.

Am I going in the wrong direction here; is there something else I should be considering?
 
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