JS Pro Golfer?

[jay helfert]

JS is the best, or at least was. I've heard a pro player say that Earl could have been a pro golfer and just laughed.

JS used to post here, a long time ago. I think that is where he mentioned he has shot rounds of 63 which is amazing golf. He then went on to say he played with Boo Weekley, and played well and shot around par. Boo shot 65, made it look simple, and was one of the worst putters on the pro tour. John never said he could compete with the top pros.

Given the prize money, number of players in the world with high school and college teams, coaches and sponsors, the level of play in top pro golf is just different. A very small percentage of people attempt to play serious pool, massive numbers of people play golf and to make it to the top is brutally hard.

Earl was a great all around athlete. College level tennis player and a scratch golfer.

 

[garczar]

Better than that. I was +7 and couldn't hang on.

And don't forget all these earnings and winnings that you see tossed about here and there, are all well before taxes and expenses....all payed by the golfer. (Outside of sponsorship and appearance which only apply to the very top players)

Average hdcp of the the top ten on the FedX couple yrs back was +7.5

 

[sjm]

John's said a lot of things.
Funny for a guy who could play on the tour to have a go fund me for $5k huh?

In this case, his words make it clear that he's four shots a round weaker than an established touring pro. That means sixteen shots weaker in a standard PGA event. With his remarks, he made it crystal clear that he was far below pro speed.

 

[ChrisSjoblom]

I think there is a difficulty differential between pool and golf that applies to amateur players as well as pros. I remember many years ago Jerry Briesath, who instructed both games at that time, telling me that golf was significantly harder to excel at.

 

[jay helfert]

I was reminded of Dave Bollman, a highly respected pool player in the 80's and 90's. Dave had been a pro golfer on the PGA tour for several years before embarking on his pool career. He was a fringe PGA player but nonetheless he was "on tour!"

 

[Fore Rail]

John once told me that he'd gamble with former US Ryder Cup member Boo Weekley and that the match was very close if Boo gave him two shots a side (meaning four shots per eighteen holes). That's not quite pro, but it's awfully good golf.

In this case, his words make it clear that he's four shots a round weaker than an established touring pro. That means sixteen shots weaker in a standard PGA event. With his remarks, he made it crystal clear that he was far below pro speed.

If they were playing match play John could be much worse than 4 shots a round weaker. Match play allows for blow up holes that equate to only losing 1 hole at a time not several shots to par.

 

[sjm]

If they were playing match play John could be much worse than 4 shots a round weaker. Match play allows for blow up holes that equate to only losing 1 hole at a time not several shots to par.

Thanks for that. Although I quoted John, I'm not too knowledgeable on this subject.

 

[RRfireblade]

Average hdcp of the the top ten on the FedX couple yrs back was +7.5

The real problem with handicap systems, and that's pretty much all handicap systems, is they work best in the middle of the system and not so great at the extreme ends.

 

[Scrunge19]

The real problem with handicap systems, and that's pretty much all handicap systems, is they work best in the middle of the system and not so great at the extreme ends.

It complicates things that as professionals, they don’t have a handicap. It would certainly be easier to compare if professional rounds were used to keep a handicap so then you could compare. But even then, these guys are playing the most difficult courses set up in the toughest way possible. So it’s not exactly like a scratch handicap at your local muni is comparable to what they’d keep on these types of courses.

 

[mmwtdh]

A friend of mine was a high school team mate of John Daly. He was 1+/- strokes behind JD, all district, all state, etc...... His family financing him hitting a number of Nike events and he never sniffed a cut.

 

[pw98]

John once told me that he'd gamble with former US Ryder Cup member Boo Weekley and that the match was very close if Boo gave him two shots a side (meaning four shots per eighteen holes). That's not quite pro, but it's awfully good golf.

A lot of it has to do with what course they are playing on and what tees they are shooting from. If its a long course and they are shooting from the blacks John wouldn't stand a chance in hell.

 

[pw98]

In this case, his words make it clear that he's four shots a round weaker than an established touring pro. That means sixteen shots weaker in a standard PGA event. With his remarks, he made it crystal clear that he was far below pro speed.

The tour events take place on longer, harder courses though so it would probably be even further back.