JS Proudly Cheering Fedor's Miss

[Jimmorrison]

Super good post

 

[Dead Money]

Jayson wasn't celebrating Fedor's miss. If that had been at 5-5 he would have just walked to the table.

He was celebrating getting to the finish line. He had a lot of fans rooting for him in the audience and he was basically giving a high five to people in the crowd that had been supporting him.

None of this is unusual. If he had broke and ran out three racks in a row to win the set and then he celebrated no one would care. I think the question is do normal celebration rules change when your opponent dogs a ball at the end?

I get what you guys are saying. If someone hangs the case 9 ball I wouldn't start cheering. There is a balance between sharing some empathy with your opponent while still acknowledging your fans.

But damn it guys, it's a tricky balance. Jayson was acknowledging the crowd here and he has been very sportsmanlike with Fedor all the time. He is a super hard competitor that has a really positive energy, loves pool, and is one of the warmest pros I've been around.

I think people project a lot of attitude onto him and Filler because they act confidently. I think this is a you guys problem. It's your right to dislike someone for no good reason, but to spew venom on the internet is just trolling. Remember, what you say about someone else says way more about you than it does about them.

 

[markjames]

ok tin man you have enough good credit
that i’m gonna take your word here about
j shaw’s character

let me ask you this-
how do you feel about celebrating
on top of the pool table?

seems like an awful thing to do
but i have zero experience with this

 

[penguin]

I think this is a you guys problem. It's your right to dislike someone for no good reason, but to spew venom on the internet is just trolling. Remember, what you say about someone else says way more about you than it does about them.

What about disliking a professional pool player for a GOOD reason?

 

[Tin Man]

ok tin man you have enough good credit
that i’m gonna take your word here about
j shaw’s character

let me ask you this-
how do you feel about celebrating
on top of the pool table?

seems like an awful thing to do
but i have zero experience with this

Hey Mark!

A lot of things are weird to me personally. Jumping on top of the pool table is one of those things.

I think that I can see how it happening once could make sense. If someone had taken second in a major 8 or 9 times over the years and were at the tail end of their career and came with a record performance to achieve a lifetime goal, and if it was a really sincere reaction of extreme emotion, maybe in the right context it would make sense.

Having it be a tradition to just climb on the pool table after every title is a strange one to me and often feels very forced and awkward. But I just assume I'm older and things change and I'm just applying outdated social standards to an evolving pool culture. I'm sure it looks normal to most 16 year olds. And if Matchroom thinks it is good for viewers then I'm fine with it.

I just worry that it will trickle down from the majors. It would be really odd to have people winning a handicapped weekly tournament, make the wild 7 ball on the break, and then pop up onto their bar table and start cheering.

 

[Tin Man]

What about disliking a professional pool player for a GOOD reason?

Of course. We are just discussing what we consider a good reason is and what an appropriate response is. It is one level of distaste to not care for someone personally. It is another to voice that publicly. There are many good reasons to do this. To me this felt like a disproportional response to a man sharing a "we got the job done boys" moment with his fans.

But I'm not disliking the original poster. I just think if people had a better understanding of who Jayson was and how this played out they might feel a bit more tolerant. If not, each to their own. We don't all have to be the same, and it's great we have a public forum to share our differences as well as our similarities.

 

[markjames]

Hey Mark!

A lot of things are weird to me personally. Jumping on top of the pool table is one of those things.

I think that I can see how it happening once could make sense. If someone had taken second in a major 8 or 9 times over the years and were at the tail end of their career and came with a record performance to achieve a lifetime goal, and if it was a really sincere reaction of extreme emotion, maybe in the right context it would make sense.

Having it be a tradition to just climb on the pool table after every title is a strange one to me and often feels very forced and awkward. But I just assume I'm older and things change and I'm just applying outdated social standards to an evolving pool culture. I'm sure it looks normal to most 16 year olds. And if Matchroom thinks it is good for viewers then I'm fine with it.

I just worry that it will trickle down from the majors. It would be really odd to have people winning a handicapped weekly tournament, make the wild 7 ball on the break, and then pop up onto their bar table and start cheering.

hello!

thanks for the thoughtful response,
you make good points

i’m older as well but i don’t think this
behavior is necessarily ok with young people

i guess the fact of the table being dismantled
after the game softens the blow of seeing
shoes jumping around

on the field of truth

but it just seems rude and mean

 

[jokrswylde]

Jumping on the pool table seems to becoming a normal occurrence, akin to a racecar driver doing a burnout or doing donuts and tearing up the infield turf....It might have more impact if it was more like tearing down the goalposts in college football- reserved for only the biggest upsets or wins.

 

[Poolmanis]

I just think if people had a better understanding of who Jayson was and how this played out they might feel a bit more tolerant.

I don´t know why some people say Jayson is some kind a good guy when he is not. He is using all the tricks to win. Dirty too.
I don´t care how good player he is. People who don´t respect their opponents and do things that JS do are bad for the sport. Because they make more and more players to use tricks too.
He lost my respect with his unsportmanship behaviour long time ago.
I could name 10 things he is done and last one was Spanish Open but i won´t. I don´t like put rumours out.
I know how good player and creative and all he is and if he was player i could respect i would probably be a fan.