Jump Cue Discussion

A very slight curved tip for a jump cue and break cue. This gives a clean separation and if your off from dead center (jacked up you will be) it will impart less English on the cue ball.
 
I know its on the cheap end but I love my FURY jump/break cue. I did replace the tip to a Samsara for better control.
 
Joey, Pred is coming out with a new jump cue that is filled with Mexican jumping beans. Why don't you wait until it comes out. I hate jump cues. But before I packed the game in I was getting pretty good with mine. Johnnyt

Actually, Predator is coming out with the Predator Air 2.
 
Joey, Pred is coming out with a new jump cue that is filled with Mexican jumping beans. Why don't you wait until it comes out. I hate jump cues. But before I packed the game in I was getting pretty good with mine. Johnnyt

I don't have anything against Mexican jumping beans but this weekend I used a borrowed Fury Jump cue and it worked pretty good for the one time I needed to use it.

JoeyA
 
the shaft wood

I gotta believe that it is the shaft wood that makes the biggest difference. I got lucky and picked up a Mark Bear jump cue with a purple heart shaft. Since getting that I have had Paul Allers, local cue maker up here in the northwest make a longer butt for it (to accommodate the BCA). The change in length has made zero difference, small vertical hops to long jumps this shaft does it all. For me the biggest factor has been the cloth on the table. Some feel to spongy, others seem like a trampoline.
Relatively flat tip on it as well. I think this gives it a sort of cutting edge.
Tommy
 
Some jump cues jump differently than others. Some jump higher, some jump more accurately. Some jump cues are better for lighter cue balls than heavier cue balls. Some are lighter, some are heavier, some are stiffer. Some of the jump cues even apply English better than others. All of these variations make up a wide range of jump cues.

Which jump cue (no jump/break) do you think, jumps (easier and more accurately) the heavy-weight cue ball, normally found on Valley Pool Tables?

JoeyA

The Alex brick diamond wood jump cue is so easy it's scary!!!! And extremely accurate!!!! It also has a white diamond tip to help with draw. Next in line would be the poison jump cue with a white diamond tip.
 
I have a jacoby with extension that is easy to me. With a few cues I've tried I think this is easiest. My jump experience is limited, after a couple of hours with it I can jump quite well. I feel confident with it what ever the situation is. That's with only a few hours of jump time
 
Joey,

It was great to finally meet you at the White Diamond's tournament. I use a jump/break cue, so I can't really comment on a dedicated jump cue, but I do use two of Alex Brick's cues as my main shooters, and I can tell you that does great work and stands behind his stuff.

I do all my own cue maintenance, and I use a phenolic tip flattened with a thin water buffalo tip on top that is actually just for reduction of miscues. It has approximately a quarter radius and on the edges has a shoulder thickness above the phenolic about 1 or 2 mm's. It still gets up easily, but I can apply any english that I like without worrying about miscuing.

Good luck with your search!

~Marc
 
Joey,

It was great to finally meet you at the White Diamond's tournament. I use a jump/break cue, so I can't really comment on a dedicated jump cue, but I do use two of Alex Brick's cues as my main shooters, and I can tell you that does great work and stands behind his stuff.

I do all my own cue maintenance, and I use a phenolic tip flattened with a thin water buffalo tip on top that is actually just for reduction of miscues. It has approximately a quarter radius and on the edges has a shoulder thickness above the phenolic about 1 or 2 mm's. It still gets up easily, but I can apply any english that I like without worrying about miscuing.

Good luck with your search!

~Marc

Marc,
It was great meeting you too. It seems that I meet at least two or three AZBers at every White Diamonds tournament that I have never met previously.

I've heard nothing but good things about Alex Brick. Are your Brick playing cue shafts, made of Dymondwood?

I would LOVE to hit some balls with your Brick playing cue if we are ever at the same location again.

Thanks,
JoeyA
 
Fair enough. I think you could add in shaft stiffness to the equation of shaft weight and tip hardness.

I am primarily interested in knowing which jump cues jump heavy-weighted cue balls best. My jump cue jumps traditional red circle cue balls quite well but has more trouble with heavier weighted cue balls.

So.......???

Thanks,
JoeyA

Actually I don't believe shaft stiffness is a significant factor. Shaft stiffness has a big effect on how the hit feels to your hand; it has a much much smaller effect on the cue ball.

Regarding heavy CBs, a heavier CB is going to be harder to jump than a lighter one regardless of the cue. Once again I think the cue that jumps a heavy CB most easily is the one with the hardest tip and the most ideal overall weight. I don't know what that ideal weight is, and it will vary somewhat from person to person and technique to technique; it's the weight that's light enough to allow lots of acceleration in the short jump stroke, while being heavy enough to pack some punch when it reaches the CB.

-Andrew
 
Balance is a significant factor. As is end mass. Remember, a jump shot is essentially the ultimate squirt shot. Thus a cue that squirts the most is likely to jump better. This is why jump/break cues are inherently a bad idea. (Unless for some reason you want high cueball squirt on your break cue, which would be odd indeed).

KMRUNOUT

I disagree on both counts. Balance shouldn't matter a bit as far as I can see, although it does change how the thing feels in your hands. And there's no squirt involved in a jump shot whatsoever if you hit with center ball. "Essentially the ultimate squirt shot" is a phrase you're going to have to explain to me a bit more.

-Andrew
 
Actually I don't believe shaft stiffness is a significant factor. Shaft stiffness has a big effect on how the hit feels to your hand; it has a much much smaller effect on the cue ball.

Regarding heavy CBs, a heavier CB is going to be harder to jump than a lighter one regardless of the cue. Once again I think the cue that jumps a heavy CB most easily is the one with the hardest tip and the most ideal overall weight. I don't know what that ideal weight is, and it will vary somewhat from person to person and technique to technique; it's the weight that's light enough to allow lots of acceleration in the short jump stroke, while being heavy enough to pack some punch when it reaches the CB.

-Andrew

You've given me some more things to think about.
Thanks,
JoeyA
 
You've given me some more things to think about.
Thanks,
JoeyA

More to think about is the jump technique you use... If you force jump and use power a bar box really is hard to jump on but if you dart or stroke jump and the equipment u are using is built right the thin slate or even wooden bed will actually have a small trampoline effect... On a bar box I can actually sometimes jump as close as 1/4" separations if the conditions are right... on a 9ft slate table like a diamond or GC it's about 1/2" granted that's with an unlocked table and red circle.... Mudball I need a cpl of inches.....
 
More to think about is the jump technique you use... If you force jump and use power a bar box really is hard to jump on but if you dart or stroke jump and the equipment u are using is built right the thin slate or even wooden bed will actually have a small trampoline effect... On a bar box I can actually sometimes jump as close as 1/4" separations if the conditions are right... on a 9ft slate table like a diamond or GC it's about 1/2" granted that's with an unlocked table and red circle.... Mudball I need a cpl of inches.....

That's incredible. What kind of jump cue do you use again? I have to imagine that the jump cue is hitting the cue ball a second time at 1/4", as the cue ball goes airborne to make it over the impeding object ball.

JoeyA
 
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I have a custom made to my specs by Bill Gibbs out of middle TN.... I did the about 3/8" at Qmasters showing it to Geno.... It's a defensive tool more than anything.... Been too busy to take it any further and there are lots of kids in the jump cue pool at the moment.......
 
In my opinion there is not a better jump cue in the world than the one made by Curtis Robertson from Abilene, TX. I have never been able to dart jump in my life until he showed me the right way to do it. It only took about an hour of him showing me and I was able to jump with a cube of chalk space between the balls. If you would like to know more about his jump cues message me or call Curtis at 325-829-3035.
 
Thanks!

In my opinion there is not a better jump cue in the world than the one made by Curtis Robertson from Abilene, TX. I have never been able to dart jump in my life until he showed me the right way to do it. It only took about an hour of him showing me and I was able to jump with a cube of chalk space between the balls. If you would like to know more about his jump cues message me or call Curtis at 325-829-3035.

Do you mean THIS CURTIS ROBERTSON?

JoeyA
 
Yes I do mean that CURTIS ROBERTSON but I will say this the jump cue is not cheap but when you figure that predator airs are selling for upto $300 as well as a lomax what's the differance in price. The cue jumps faster and higher than anything I've ever used.
 
I just ordered my first jump cue today.After it gets in and I can use it properly,I'll post a review
 
Jacoby

Jacoby is the best In my opinion. Ive tried pretty much all of the jump cues out, im a dealer in most and the jacoby is the most consistent for me.
 
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