Bob Jewett has no control over the sales of this industry, and money will find a way to win out in the end....good or not...so you get no credit with your answer!
So you now think that jump cue makers have some influence in the industry and can form the rules to suit them?
The rules clearly state that no equipment used is allowed to harm any of the other equipment. Thus if jump cues were found to be harming the cloth then they would have been banned by the rules.
Nice try.
This statement by you, contradicts the next statement you said.
No, it doesn't. You state that you can see if Shane (or insert anyone's name here) has been practicing jump shots on a table as if that is some kind of feat. ANYONE can see when someone has been PRACTICING jump shots on a table. Where are they supposed to practice them? On the floor?
If you want to bet something here...make it worth while
Jump cue shots are like writing in braille for the blind...the marks stick out like a sore thumb
My pleasure. How much would you like to bet? The mark only sticks out of the table is not cleaned. I guess you missed out on the 27 times I said I can make the marks go away.
Next time one of the rooms in Charlotte is going to have the tables recovered I will ask if the room owner will make one table a no jumping table for 30 days. You have to show up and tell the owner which table was the no jump table.
Do I detect a bit of sarcasum...because you fail to know the history of the cloth manufacture you're promoting sales against?...Is your lack of knowledge part of your sales pitch to potential buyers as well?
Good point. And yes you did detect a bit of sarcasm. I found references to the HR as far back as 2000 so again I will defer to your superior knowledge. However I am genuinely surprised that it wasn't included in out price lists until 2008. Yes, my lack of knowledge is part of my sales pitch. I tell my customers that I haven't been putting cloth on tables for 26 years but I have been playing pool on cloth for longer than that and I feel that Miliken Super Pro is the better cloth after using it for five years.
I tell them about room owners who made the switch and love it. I tell them anecdotal stories about the cloth from those room owners. I tell them about allowing Jamison "Mr. Masse' " unlimited freedom to beat the crap out of the cloth during the shows we did and how it held up perfectly.
Now that I know from you that Simonis is 330 years old and according to you Strachan is younger. I can say well, in the year 2010 the younger cloth company finally passed the old master.
In my opinion that is.
No, actually distributorship's of Simonis cloth like the one you represent are like snakes in the grass. You over price the Simonis cloth you sell, then offer a lower priced cloth...promote it as a better cloth in your opinion...so you can make a sale...that's called bait & switch. Some Simonis distributors have been doing this lately as a way of increasing sales, because their margin of profit is higher selling a less than quality cloth at a slightly lower price than the Simonis cloth they sell.
Oh, now the gloves are off eh. That's a pretty heavy charge there Cowboy. We sold Simonis for the prices that Simonis told us to sell for.
Now here's your history lesson. When we introduced Milliken Super Pro to the market in 2005 it was MORE EXPENSIVE than Simonis. That's right, we took the chance on a cloth that cost MORE than Simonis. That kind of flies in the face of your little ignorant diatribe above doesn't it.
Furthermore we didn't do anything extra to promote the Miliken OVER the Simonis. We did advertisements and flyers but when people called up and said that the wanted Simonis then we sold them Simonis. Of course we did mention that we had another premium cloth and invited them to consider it but there was no bait and switch in any fashion whatsoever.
Then a few years ago Simonis raised their prices and that meant that Simonis was then more expensive than Miliken. We haven't raised our prices on the Miliken in five years since it was introduced.
So then room owners started looking a little harder at Miliken, a premium cloth that lasts longer than Simonis and is cheaper. Our sales of Miliken have taken off dramatically in the past two years and the extra table coverings has confirmed our claims that Miliken is the better cloth.
To the point where Simonis is actually selling cloth to rooms directly cheaper than their wholesale list prices.
That's right Mr. Hancock. - we who sold thousands of yards of Simonis yearly were being undercut by our supplier just because the room owner was considering Miliken Super Pro. I made this bold just to be sure you get it.
You don't seem to know shit, all you are is a salesman....a mouth piece
Well I am a salesman that's for sure. As are you. And I am mouthy, no doubt about it. But I know when I have a great product and I know when it's better than the competition's product.
Do some research, that way when asked...at least you'll be able to give honest answers!
Which answers have I given about the cloth are not honest? I made a few statements that were in error through ignorance. These are also not statements that even come up in conversation when speaking with a customer about cloth. Only in this particular conversation with YOU who is a loyal Simonis fanboy to the core. If Simonis brought out another brand unbeknownst to you which was the EXACT same as what they sell now then I have no doubt that you would still claim that "Simonis" is superior cloth.
EVERYONE that sells a worsted woolen cloth on the market makes the EXACT same claim as you just did...and it's always in comparison to Simonis cloth...because ALL of you SOMEHOW have to try to compare your cloth as better than Simonis....in order to talk someone into buying it.
Well it's no secret that Simonis is the market leader in worsted cloth. So naturally the comparison HAS TO BE against the market leader. The number one question I get FROM BUYERS is "how does it compare to Simonis?" So you're right, ALL of us have to show why our product has some benefit over the brand everyone knows. In case of Miliken Super Pro it lasts longer and costs less.
That's because he won, had he lost he'd have said something else. You want some kind of credibility....name 20 Pro's that indorse your cloth...then you're getting somewhere....otherwise, all you'll ever be....is just another salesman...beating on doors trying to make a sale
He didn't have to say anything at all about the cloth. What he said was his true feeling on the cloth.
Pros that endorse? I guess by that you might mean wear a sponsor patch? I think Miliken has one in Europe. We don't actively seek players to put patches on them so I will give it up to you that Simonis probably has a lot more players on their payroll than Miliken does. However be careful what you wish for because if Miliken, the parent company, ever decides to really go after the market and start putting money into sponsorships the way Simonis does then they have much more money to do so and I am they can buy all the endorsement they want.
But until then you're right again, I am just a sales man beating on doors and have to get the cloth on the tables one table at a time.
Build your OWN reputation for your cloth, stop trying to use Simonis as a step ladder to add sales to your profit margin
You don't have the support of the top mechanics for your cloth, and believe me when I tell you....without us...there is no YOU!
We are building our own reputation. Just like in sports in order to build a reputation you have to take over the leader. Simonis is the market leader and so they are the ones we have to take over. The only way to do that is to get on the tables so people can see the results for themselves. Without Miliken's heavyweight financial support we can't outmarket Simonis so it's door-to-door, conversation by conversation.
And I'd challenge your statement about top mechanics but I am not about to name names and bring other people into our discussion for you to start tearing them down about how much better a mechanic you are than them in order to attempt to discredit them. Let's just leave it at the fact that we are making headway table by table and room by room and that's good enough for me.
You just get your challenge ready. I will be there with our ONE type of cloth Miliken Super Pro and waiting on whatever flavor of Simonis you want to put up in our wear test.
