Just curious about Meucci.

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I wanted to buy a shaft from meucci. A carbon fiber one. After 2 months I finally canceled my order. During that time I had a Mcdermott stick made and I ordered it after the meucci shaft. What's going on with meucci?
 
I want to add on to this line of inquiry. Which current Meucci models have real inlays, and which models are stickers/overlays?
 
Meucci has been overpriced garbage since the early 2000's. I hear they got better, but the way they burned people back then leaves them completely off my radar. I had a friend who spent a decent chunk on a mooooochy back then, inlays literally fell out in six months. She babied that cue.
 
Tschmidt said:
I wanted to buy a shaft from meucci. A carbon fiber one. After 2 months I finally canceled my order. During that time I had a Mcdermott stick made and I ordered it after the meucci shaft. What's going on with meucci?
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With whom did you speak? I was just there a couple months ago, and they are working like crazy on orders. I might have seen a couple of hundred carbon shafts midstream. Not that this helps.
 

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DeeDeeCues said:
Meucci has been overpriced garbage since the early 2000's. I hear they got better, but the way they burned people back then leaves them completely off my radar. I had a friend who spent a decent chunk on a mooooochy back then, inlays literally fell out in six months. She babied that cue.
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I really do hope that under the new leadership that the stories don’t repeat. I’m hopeful.
 
Cornerman said:
I really do hope that under the new leadership that the stories don’t repeat. I’m hopeful.
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New leadership, second chances, and all that, but the brand will always be tainted from an era of putting out absolute garbage. If I were in charge of Meucci branding, I'd at least change the logo away from the script that was used in the horrible era. I'm actually baffled that anyone would take a chance on a meucci.
 
DeeDeeCues said:
New leadership, second chances, and all that, but the brand will always be tainted from an era of putting out absolute garbage. If I were in charge of Meucci branding, I'd at least change the logo away from the script that was used in the horrible era. I'm actually baffled that anyone would take a chance on a meucci.
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I was burned by crappy Meucci cues in the past, but I have had a few of the recent ones and the quality really was quite excellent. I think the PRO shaft is better than the carbon fiber as far as playability, but that, of course, is subjective. Some recent discussion about overlays and Meucci (I always thought everything was inlayed?) aroused my curiosity about which cues had what. I've considered buying a more expensive model, but wanted to see some responses re: overlays.
 
Everything on a Meucci is inlayed except for the playing cards. The new management is focused on building the brand. They working hard to bring down lead times without sacrificing quality.
 
Cornerman said:
With whom did you speak? I was just there a couple months ago, and they are working like crazy on orders. I might have seen a couple of hundred carbon shafts midstream. Not that this helps.
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Sent emails. They had excuses. To keep the "quality" up, and this was just for a shaft. And then when I wanted to cancel my order, boom no problem. I dont understand that. How do you make money if you cant get it made in a timely manner?
 
All of the above just reinforces why I only deal with the Meucci Originals, from 1975-1989. During this golden era, Meucci's reputation and dominance were built on solid production lines and brilliant marketing. On the production side, the earliest lines were made when Bob's constant presence and influence drove quality and craftsmanship standards on the factory floor. The more he stepped away, the worse things got. Even within the "Originals" cues, I prefer the older series (MO through '84). I know they made a few stinkers here and there, and it seems the "stickers" and overlays were primarily limited to their higher-end cues. They never appealed to me much anyway... I prefer the simpler designs of their mid-level offerings from these years. Two or four points, give me the classic woods and bright veneers on a full-splice. Good enough.
On the marketing end, Bob was smart to really nurture his relationships with top players and take the idea of sponsorships & endorsements to a new level. His player-inspired cue lines gave them a great platform to introduce fresh designs. The less-told story is how many amateurs he sponsored as well. He placed a high value on forging relationships with those who might influence opinion with players. Smart.

Anyway, as mentioned already, some folks love the feel of a real, classic Meucci from the golden years. Others don't. And, while they have earned most criticism for the failures in the 90's and beyond, one shouldn't overlook or discount the great quality in the older cues that made them a dominant force for decades. Just my 2 cents.
 
Cornerman said:
I really do hope that under the new leadership that the stories don’t repeat. I’m hopeful.
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I'm gonna chime in here and say the contributions to this game that Meucci has made over the years cannot be overstated, taking into consideration the black mark from those questionable years.
My mentor played with one and at the time, I didn't care for the way they played but was amazed by the insane amount of spin he could generate w that cue.
I was and still am an SS joint Uber Fan.
That being said, I wish the new Meucci continued success.😁
 
Fvalstounge said:
All of the above just reinforces why I only deal with the Meucci Originals, from 1975-1989. During this golden era, Meucci's reputation and dominance were built on solid production lines and brilliant marketing. On the production side, the earliest lines were made when Bob's constant presence and influence drove quality and craftsmanship standards on the factory floor. The more he stepped away, the worse things got. Even within the "Originals" cues, I prefer the older series (MO through '84). I know they made a few stinkers here and there, and it seems the "stickers" and overlays were primarily limited to their higher-end cues. They never appealed to me much anyway... I prefer the simpler designs of their mid-level offerings from these years. Two or four points, give me the classic woods and bright veneers on a full-splice. Good enough.
On the marketing end, Bob was smart to really nurture his relationships with top players and take the idea of sponsorships & endorsements to a new level. His player-inspired cue lines gave them a great platform to introduce fresh designs. The less-told story is how many amateurs he sponsored as well. He placed a high value on forging relationships with those who might influence opinion with players. Smart.

Anyway, as mentioned already, some folks love the feel of a real, classic Meucci from the golden years. Others don't. And, while they have earned most criticism for the failures in the 90's and beyond, one shouldn't overlook or discount the great quality in the older cues that made them a dominant force for decades. Just my 2 cents.
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Nah, that's an easy nickel bro!!😉👍🏻
 
Fvalstounge said:
All of the above just reinforces why I only deal with the Meucci Originals, from 1975-1989. During this golden era, Meucci's reputation and dominance were built on solid production lines and brilliant marketing. On the production side, the earliest lines were made when Bob's constant presence and influence drove quality and craftsmanship standards on the factory floor. The more he stepped away, the worse things got. Even within the "Originals" cues, I prefer the older series (MO through '84). I know they made a few stinkers here and there, and it seems the "stickers" and overlays were primarily limited to their higher-end cues. They never appealed to me much anyway... I prefer the simpler designs of their mid-level offerings from these years. Two or four points, give me the classic woods and bright veneers on a full-splice. Good enough.
On the marketing end, Bob was smart to really nurture his relationships with top players and take the idea of sponsorships & endorsements to a new level. His player-inspired cue lines gave them a great platform to introduce fresh designs. The less-told story is how many amateurs he sponsored as well. He placed a high value on forging relationships with those who might influence opinion with players. Smart.

Anyway, as mentioned already, some folks love the feel of a real, classic Meucci from the golden years. Others don't. And, while they have earned most criticism for the failures in the 90's and beyond, one shouldn't overlook or discount the great quality in the older cues that made them a dominant force for decades. Just my 2 cents.
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Completely correct in my opinion.
 
Repeating this from my yesterday post on another Meucci thread:

I know Budget Billiards may have an ax to grind, but this is on their website and I believe it to be true::



At Budget Billiards, we believe in full transparency about the products we sell. Here’s what you should know about Meucci Cues under the current ownership:

  • Warranty Coverage: Meucci’s limited warranty covers only defects that affect the structural integrity or performance of the cue for a period of one year. Cosmetic imperfections, minor flaws, and warpage are not covered.
  • Craftsmanship Notes: While Meucci cues are crafted with high-quality materials, there have been reports of inconsistencies in craftsmanship. Recent models may sometimes exhibit cosmetic variations, such as differences in color saturation, minor inlay misalignments, or irregularities in finishing. Additionally, some cues have thicker-than-standard butt ends, making them incompatible with some cue cases. Variations in joint size have also been reported, which could impact the fit of future shaft replacements and/or create points of weakness below the joint that are more susceptible to breakage under stress.
"The aesthetic appeal of the cue is not covered by our manufacturer warranty, [...] and each dealer takes on the responsibility of moving the SKUs they purchase from us. Aesthetic variations do not impact the usability of the product."

— Seth & Jeremy (Owners of Meucci Cues, LLC)
 
Logandgriff said:
Repeating this from my yesterday post on another Meucci thread:

I know Budget Billiards may have an ax to grind, but this is on their website and I believe it to be true::



At Budget Billiards, we believe in full transparency about the products we sell. Here’s what you should know about Meucci Cues under the current ownership:

  • Warranty Coverage: Meucci’s limited warranty covers only defects that affect the structural integrity or performance of the cue for a period of one year. Cosmetic imperfections, minor flaws, and warpage are not covered.
  • Craftsmanship Notes: While Meucci cues are crafted with high-quality materials, there have been reports of inconsistencies in craftsmanship. Recent models may sometimes exhibit cosmetic variations, such as differences in color saturation, minor inlay misalignments, or irregularities in finishing. Additionally, some cues have thicker-than-standard butt ends, making them incompatible with some cue cases. Variations in joint size have also been reported, which could impact the fit of future shaft replacements and/or create points of weakness below the joint that are more susceptible to breakage under stress.
"The aesthetic appeal of the cue is not covered by our manufacturer warranty, [...] and each dealer takes on the responsibility of moving the SKUs they purchase from us. Aesthetic variations do not impact the usability of the product."

— Seth & Jeremy (Owners of Meucci Cues, LLC)
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Definitely have an ax to grind. I don't think it was an amicable parting.
 
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