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Earl Strickland and Buddy Hall were playing in the finals at a tournament in Dayton, OH in the mid 80's at Forest Park Billiards owned by Joe Burns. It's into the set pretty deep, Earls' breaking....doesn't make a ball, no shot on the one ball, stands there a second and goes and sits down......Buddy gets up off his chair, walks to the table slow and picks up the cue ball?!?! (there wasn't any foul, LOL) puts it where he can make the one ball and runs out. The whole time he's running out people are whispering and asking if Earl fouled wondering what the hell was going on. No one involved in the match caught it.

Buddy wins the tournament, people get together asking about it and nobody (Earl, Buddy, the Ref) knows what they're talking about. Pat Fleming was filming it and they replay it and SOB if that aint what happened. Brain lock by alot of people...they just went by the final score and that was that, nothing else you could do. Umpires, Refs and players in all sports blow it now and then, thats life and you move on. Kinda sick and funny at the same time thou.

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stevelomako said:
Earl Strickland and Buddy Hall were playing in the finals at a tournament in Dayton, OH in the mid 80's at Forest Park Billiards owned by Joe Burns. It's into the set pretty deep, Earls' breaking....doesn't make a ball, no shot on the one ball, stands there a second and goes and sits down......Buddy gets up off his chair, walks to the table slow and picks up the cue ball?!?! (there wasn't any foul, LOL) puts it where he can make the one ball and runs out. The whole time he's running out people are whispering and asking if Earl fouled wondering what the hell was going on. No one involved in the match caught it.

Buddy wins the tournament, people get together asking about it and nobody (Earl, Buddy, the Ref) knows what they're talking about. Pat Fleming was filming it and they replay it and SOB if that aint what happened. Brain lock by alot of people...they just went by the final score and that was that, nothing else you could do. Umpires, Refs and players in all sports blow it now and then, thats life and you move on. Kinda sick and funny at the same time thou.

PLEASE!!! NO REPLIES!!! JUST POST THE NEXT STORY!!!


Congratulations Steve, well done, cut the bull shit, talk pool, how about that, it is about time we go back to this once more. I'm all for it.
 
stevelomako said:
Earl Strickland and Buddy Hall were playing in the finals at a tournament in Dayton, OH in the mid 80's at Forest Park Billiards owned by Joe Burns. It's into the set pretty deep, Earls' breaking....doesn't make a ball, no shot on the one ball, stands there a second and goes and sits down......Buddy gets up off his chair, walks to the table slow and picks up the cue ball?!?! (there wasn't any foul, LOL) puts it where he can make the one ball and runs out. The whole time he's running out people are whispering and asking if Earl fouled wondering what the hell was going on. No one involved in the match caught it.

Buddy wins the tournament, people get together asking about it and nobody (Earl, Buddy, the Ref) knows what they're talking about. Pat Fleming was filming it and they replay it and SOB if that aint what happened. Brain lock by alot of people...they just went by the final score and that was that, nothing else you could do. Umpires, Refs and players in all sports blow it now and then, thats life and you move on. Kinda sick and funny at the same time thou.

PLEASE!!! NO REPLIES!!! JUST POST THE NEXT STORY!!!
couldn't help but reply....well geez didn't Earl see it? And why didn't Buddy think it was a foul?
 
I have a accustat tape where Mike Massey is playing 9 ball on the featured table so everyone in the room is watching. He breaks, makes a ball and is hooked, so he just picks up the cue ball and moves it over so he has a shot. Pockets the ball, runs out and the rerack and he breaks again. Not one person in the room picked up on what he did which was foul, he did not have cue ball in hand. Later in the edit, they saw it and Incardona was having a ball laughing about how it slipped by the entire room.

Mike is a trick shot guy so he is always picking up a ball and moving it around. All agreed he did not do this on purpose but is was just a mental mistake on his part nobody caught.
 
Well, as long as we are talking about matches - here is an interesting Strickland story. In the World Championships in Germany around 1991 Strickland is playing Mark Wilson (I think) anyway Strickland is dominating the match. There comes a point in the game where Strickland has no pocket for the one and he banks it through a huge cluster from an off angle position. Before the shot the announcer says that Strickland has placed the chalk where the one ball should strike the rail.

Now this would be a foul if Strickland did it and I didn't think he did. So I rewound the tape several times and the chalk didn't move for three games! Strickland didn't touch the chalk or even walk over to see if the one was blocked from banking. He just stepped up and whacked in in like a hanger in the World Championships.

Love him or hate him, Earl can come with shots.

John
 
One match at a 1-Pocket tournament was tied at 2 games in a race to three. Player A owes one ball. Player B has 2-3 balls. After a long series of safeties, player A runs 8 balls. Player B gets off his chair with his right hand out offering congratulations. Player A sweeps the remaining balls toward the foot of the table. Now player B says "You don't win, you still owe a ball". As TD, I ruled that
player B conceeded the game, but the Room owner over-rode my decision and had them re-play the game. Player A won anyway. To this day I still think Player B was trying to pull a big hustle.

Troy
 
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Troy said:
One match at a 1-Pocket tournament was tied at 2 games in a race to three. Player A owes one ball. Player B has 2-3 balls. After a long series of safeties, player A runs 8 balls. Player B gets off his chair with his right hand out offering congratulations. Player A sweeps the remaining balls toward the foot of the table. Now player B says "You don't win, you still owe a ball". As TD, I ruled that
player B conceeded the game, but the Room owner over-rode my decision and had them re-play the game. Player A won anyway. To this day I still think Player B was trying to pull a big hustle.

Troy

Troy,

I like the decision you made. Player B, as far as I'm concerned, relinquished the match, therefore, the match was over. It's a tough call but you had the guts to make it and you were right.
 
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stevelomako said:
Earl Strickland and Buddy Hall were playing in the finals at a tournament in Dayton, OH in the mid 80's at Forest Park Billiards owned by Joe Burns. It's into the set pretty deep, Earls' breaking....doesn't make a ball, no shot on the one ball, stands there a second and goes and sits down......Buddy gets up off his chair, walks to the table slow and picks up the cue ball?!?! (there wasn't any foul, LOL) puts it where he can make the one ball and runs out. The whole time he's running out people are whispering and asking if Earl fouled wondering what the hell was going on. No one involved in the match caught it.

Buddy wins the tournament, people get together asking about it and nobody (Earl, Buddy, the Ref) knows what they're talking about. Pat Fleming was filming it and they replay it and SOB if that aint what happened. Brain lock by alot of people...they just went by the final score and that was that, nothing else you could do. Umpires, Refs and players in all sports blow it now and then, thats life and you move on. Kinda sick and funny at the same time thou.

PLEASE!!! NO REPLIES!!! JUST POST THE NEXT STORY!!!

This was the facts. Janice and i were there. Beat joe out of $300.00 on that match. sorry for the reply.....people went nuts after wards....
blud
 
stevelomako said:
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S. Padre Tournament, a few years ago when it was still eight ball, David G is playing Jerry Prado on the winners side. It's hill to hill with G at the table, he has 2 balls on the table, with Prado having 7 on the table. G tries to make one of the balls and break out the other. Well, he missed the ball and broke out the other; however, the cluster G tried to break out was still a little tricky for Prado. For the sweators, it looks like Prado was dead out, but I can understand why he took his time to study the layout. Well, he studied for about five minutes, and then he picked up the cue ball and put it where one would put it IF they had ball in hand. He studied so long, he talked himself into having ball in hand. He just about did have ball in hand, the way the layout was. Anyway, G called him on it, and guess who went undefeated and won 20 large.
 
I don't know how common this is or if it's a really difficult shot but one time I saw a tournament where Efren Reyes a jump shot I couldn't believe. He made the object ball, not the cue ball, jump and go in the pocket! I forgot which tournament it was but if there's anyone out there who saw this also, I'd really like to know which tournament it was and if there are tapes available. I'd really like to buy that one! Is that a difficult shot? I haven't seen anyone do it yet, even in practice, much less in an actual tournament.
 
Renegade said:
Is that a difficult shot? I haven't seen anyone do it yet, even in practice, much less in an actual tournament.

It is not a hard shot to do, but requires some practice. Jump the CB into the object ball, and depending on the equipment/angle of impact the object ball will jump off the table over objects.
 
Renegade said:
I don't know how common this is or if it's a really difficult shot but one time I saw a tournament where Efren Reyes a jump shot I couldn't believe. He made the object ball, not the cue ball, jump and go in the pocket! I forgot which tournament it was but if there's anyone out there who saw this also, I'd really like to know which tournament it was and if there are tapes available. I'd really like to buy that one! Is that a difficult shot? I haven't seen anyone do it yet, even in practice, much less in an actual tournament.
You may be thinking of George Breedlove. On an Accustats video, he jumps the object ball over an interfering 9 ball, gets position and runs out - I think it is the match that he loses to Efren Reyes or maybe Danny Harriman.
 
I was playing 8 ball against Jason kirkwood at DCC in the finals of a 3 man team tournament. I miss shape on an 8 ball. It is tied up with 2 of his balls. He rolls one of his balls close to the pack. To move his ball away and not break them up I must let the cue ball go in the corner. Having a brain lock I took the intentional scatch { normally a loss}. Seeing how I intentionally scratched, Jason takes ball in hand and rolls another ball close, I scratch again, he takes ball in hand. After I scatched the third time he finally took the shot and got the breakout to win the game. Both our teams were amazed that we both overlooked the obvious loss of game. Sam
 
3 of them for you

First time I ever saw Rodney Morris was in West End in Elizabeth NJ. My uncle and I are there and I am watching Rodney play some local. He gets shoddy position on the 8, but hits the 8 before the cue ball hits the first rail he shakes the guys hand and says nice match. Well wouldn't you know the cueball goes 3 rails and is 3 inches from the 9 and the 9 is 3 inches from the pocket. I thought what a cocky little bastard.. but the man knows when he hits the ball good.

Manassas Virginia at a McDermott 9 ball stop in the early 90's. My uncle and I drive all night get there about 11 pm Friday night. We are all hitting them around and talking it up with some people. I met a cuemaker at the time, who worked for Black Boar and we talked, he had a nice cue he just made. Pretty cool. But either Sat or Sunday, during the tournament the pipes burst and water is all over the place. Everyone scramblin' not knowing what is happening. Well we all go to this Chinese place for lunch and it finally gets restarted at a pool room about a mile away. My uncle finished third to Breedlove and Neptune Joe Fradey. Never saw more people unscrew cues in unison like that before :)

Big Steve aka the Whale (6-5 320+). My uncle and I are in Paterson NJ at Miami's pool hall. Steve comes in and where all just screwing around on a triple shim 5*10. So he starts coming with trick shots and hustles. He puts a ball on the cushion so its in the groove between the rail and the cushion. He puts the cueball at the other end of the table in the same position. In three tries he one hops the cue ball, cuts the ball down the rail and it drops in the pocket. Cue ball bangs the wall and we were all in shock. So we bought him dinner.

Joe
 
jacko said:
Congratulations Steve, well done, cut the bull shit, talk pool, how about that, it is about time we go back to this once more. I'm all for it.


I agree, Larry.



Heres a good one I borrowed-

Fred Agnir reports on some action at the BCA tournament in Las Vegas at rec.sport.billiard recently and was kind enough to let us repeat it here.

You might hear of some of the action at the BCA tourney. There wasn't the action like Valley Forge, nor the high beans like Derby City, but... here's the story.
The eventual winner of the 8-ball SINGLES was Bobby Pickle from Tenn. He's a well known bar pool player. Even the guys I went with (who know nothing of real pool players) know his play. So, my buddy tells us that Pickle has got someone on the table for 200 jellybeans a game. All around seemed to agree that Pickle had speared a fish. Some Russian kid....

I couldn't get out there fast enough trying to see if by chance, the window was still open. My assumptions were correct. The Russian kid was Evgeny Stalev. They were well into it. You could hear Pickle yapping away. Think Keith McCready with a strawberry blond wig. The smoke-stung voice, the loud polite insults. And he could play. Really play. Remember, he won the single event. This was his first time out to the BCA Vegas, so he snuck in as an Open player. This guy would have won the Masters division. So much for local policing. Anyway, through all the vocals, the insults, inciting the "USA" chant, and the phenomenal outs, Stalev was monkey-stone-faced. For the uneducated, it seemed that Pickle must have been winning with all his banter. He seemed to be having a really fun time. But in the end, his backer pulled up, seven games stuck.

Pickle unscrews, and that's all she wrote. Right. Pickle starts to jaw with one of Stalev's backer buddies. And after a few moments, he rescrews. I've seen a lot of things at different action sessions, but I've never seen the next happening. A spectator, a railbirdess of sorts starts yelling out to Pickle, "hey, what are you doing. You unscrewed. BCA rules It's not your table. It's his!" pointing to Stalev. And she was dead serious. Did I mention she was drinking?

So, Pickle goes over to her and first asks her rather large boyfriend "If I insult her, are you gonna swing at me, cuz if you are, I'll be forced to... beat *him* up!(pointing to an older gentleman who could barely hold in his teeth)" Laughs abound, he tried to explain that they were matching up. She didn't get it. BCA rules, he unscrewed, he should be off the table. He sucks. Go home loser. Loser with a big "L" on the forehead. And on and on. It was beyond comical.

Back to the action, the match was made. 200 beans a game, Pickle was giving Stalev's back the last three. And Pickle is good enough to give most anyone the last three. But not Stalev's backer. It's amazing that pool players still don't know other pool players. I don't think Pickle ever heard of Stalev. And just who was Stalev's backer? Maryland's Ryan McCreesh, one of the few players who wins on the Joss Tour. On this size table (I think it was an 8' Smart Table), Ryan could give Pickle the last three. But, the hustle was on, and Pickle got pickled.

Pickle the player hits Ryan with a two-pack off the flip. Ryan gets to the last three in the next, and B&R's seven balls in the next. Match over. Spot is tossed. Pickle is not amused at the hustle. "What, you've never seen that before?" Ryan asks.

"I don't take a spot from nobody!" Pickle retorts. That speaks volumes.

They continue to spar for a match. The railbirdess continues to call Pickle names, remind him that he unscrewed, that his quarters aren't on the table, that the Russian should be on the table. Bystanders asks me why McCreesh doesn't want to play him even if he's that good. I have to explain to supposed pool players that he just got the last three, and that of course he'll be asking for a lesser spot, not eliminate the spot. I was thinking the last two, or the 8, or the breaks.

The game now was 5-ahead for 5, no spot. With seemingly no backers for Pickle, McCreesh wants Pickle to front the money on the lamp. (Okay, no lamp, but that's where it would have gone). More hemming and hawing, but Pickle finally concedes, leaves his stick on the table, and goes to his room to open a can of beans. On his return, a little more jawing of course and Pickle now asks Ryan to show his money. Ryan flashes some, and Pickle is now working the crowd.

"I didn't ask you to flash your money. I asked you to *show* your money. You made me go to my room to get my money, now *show* me your money." Stalev (who well understands English, despite any rumors that say otherwise) had already begun to pull out his wad. A roll of probably l0 large beans. He hands it to Ryan who in turn puts into Pickles face. It barely fits in his hands.

Pickle nods approval and turns away from the Stalev/McCreesh tandem. He widens his eyes and mouth with the "oh my gawd" look. He does not see this many beans often.

He did not fold. He played extremely well, running out all but one time he had an open look. He played better than he did against Stalev. But, as said here many times, there are so many levels of pool. One person can be dominated by someone, who can in turn be dominated by someone else, who in turn needs the 7 from someone else. Here we have the guy who wins the BCA singles, who could have won the BCA Masters,and who could've used the 7 from Ryan McCreesh. Ryan ran out almost everything, dawging one ball as well. But he had more B&R's, and though down at the onset, never looked in trouble. Pool at its best. And the reality is that the man McCreesh was with (Stalev) could have beat him with a spot. Sick.

After McCreesh finished it off, Pickle shook his hand and said "thank you. I enjoyed it. Really. You're a great player." I know he was seething, but the "thank you" seemed genuine. Bobby Pickle, the arrogant and boisterous learned a lesson, and really learned it cheaply. He needs to go to Derby City. He'd do well. He should take a spot. He'll need it. Fred
 
I used to play on a league out in Palatka, Florida. The owner out at Breakers Billiards asked me every week when my boyfriend (JP) was going to grows some balls and come play him. I always disregarded the comments...and told my boyfriend about them.

Finally about two months after constant hastling, I told JP he had to go play him. So one night JP, two of his pool buddies, and me all loaded up for the roadtrip. We got out there about 8:30 at night. JP and Vaughn started to play immediately, starting at 20 a game and later jacked up the bid to 40. They played until 9:00 the next morning...and JP walked away 900 winner! Vaughn asked for a rematch. Jp went backt he next weekend, and walked away 500 winner...Vaughn still wants his rematch....but JP has 1400 of his money that he WILL NOT get back. I found this rather humorous after all the months Vaughn would talk about JP growing balls, and stop being this or that!
 
I saw a tape where Jimmy Mataya breaks at nine ball and a ball slams into a pocket but bounces out. He didn't make a ball but he just started shooting and ran out. I guess the crowd thought the corner ball went in... (I think it was on a accustat tape, maybe a highlight one, but I'm not sure)
 
I don't have any stories about the pros, but I have the local's stories down.

Just this past weekend at University Billiards in Jacksonville we were trying to get some action rolling...well, really we just wanted the cash!! This guy M, a pretty god 9-ball player, was trying to get a game with another guy named J, who is a pretty hot one pocket player. As a side note M has never shot a game of one pocket in his life. They are going back and forth about what weight J should give up for one pocket. M wanted some 3 coaches, and 10-6. J wouldn't give it up. So, M pipes up and says, okay, then I will play you a race to 3 in one pocket, 8-8, even, no coaching...for 300! ...but after we finish that race, then we move to 9-ball, play a race to 9 for another 300. J agreed and they began. M won 2 in a row onepocket games. It became hill to hill. They both had 6 balls, and J was up. He made his 7th, and his 8th then scratched. M took the glory on that one. Then they started 9-ball. M had J 7-3, needed only 2 more. He stalled a little and let J catch up...dumbest move. They got hill to hill, and it was J's shot...he made the 2,3,4,5,6, and dogged the 7 w/ a scratch. M took ball in hand, made the 7, 8, and left odd shape for the 9. He would either have a hard cut into the corner, or an awkward angle for a bank in the side. He went for the cut...made it, then the CB went 5 rails right into that same corner pocket...giving J the game! All of that were in on it were sweating...at least we broke even and didn't lose any money1
 
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