Just started watching the 10 ball on ultimate pool.

You guys that cant accept bar boxes have a problem, even at pool halls that have 9 foot tables the 9 footers sit empty while everyone plays on bar boxes. People who are not shortstops and above just don't want to play on 9 foot tables.
Not our problem, it’s the problem of American pool
 
There is a learning curve for 9 foot tables, which is why people choose the easier option.

But once you get used to a 9ft table, the game is so much more enjoyable.

You can't let your stroke out on a 7ft table.
The majority(by a big margin) of pool players in the US have ZERO desire to play on a 9ft table. All league play and most tournament play is on the barbox. They don't have the time or the desire to play on big tables. They don't give a airborne copulation about 'letting their stroke out'. Hey, i love 9fts myself but i'm way in the minority in this country. IMO these UP cats are geniuses by tapping into a ready-made market.
 
You guys that cant accept bar boxes have a problem, even at pool halls that have 9 foot tables the 9 footers sit empty while everyone plays on bar boxes. People who are not shortstops and above just don't want to play on 9 foot tables.
Agree 100%. The place i play has a BUNCH of leagues and i'm gonna say maybe 15% of them ever hit a single ball on the GC's. They play to get out of the house, have fun, see friends, knock back a few drinks. They have no desire to play on a big table.
 
Not our problem, it’s the problem of American pool
I don't understand what makes you think it is a problem for Americans. I'm American and don't GAF what you or others think and don't GAF what others think about America. So there's that. When you bitch and moan about bar boxes you are mainly talking to yourself, carry on.
 
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The majority(by a big margin) of pool players in the US have ZERO desire to play on a 9ft table. All league play and most tournament play is on the barbox. They don't have the time or the desire to play on big tables. They don't give a airborne copulation about 'letting their stroke out'. Hey, i love 9fts myself but i'm way in the minority in this country. IMO these UP cats are geniuses by tapping into a ready-made market.
I have a Gold Crown in my basement that I love to play on, I also love playing on what some call "kiddie tables". Its quite possible those that call bar boxes "kiddie tables" do it to make up for deficiency's in other departments, kinda like the lifted/big tire 4x4 thing. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Played in a regional event last weekend on the Valley's.

541 players total in all divisions. 2nd chance events in all divisions. Mini tournaments being run one after another. Calcutta money was strong as ever.

Yep there's a problem with American pool.
 
The majority(by a big margin) of pool players in the US have ZERO desire to play on a 9ft table. All league play and most tournament play is on the barbox. They don't have the time or the desire to play on big tables. They don't give a airborne copulation about 'letting their stroke out'. Hey, i love 9fts myself but i'm way in the minority in this country. IMO these UP cats are geniuses by tapping into a ready-made market.
People might like playing on 7ft tables, but they make for awful viewing.

A top professional makes 99% of their shots, and the game comes down to luck with the break.

There are also no safety exchanges, which are an enjoyable part of pool.

The Mosconi Cup starts in a few weeks and that event is head and shoulders above anything Ultimate Pool throw up.
 
I don't understand what makes you think it is a problem for Americans. I'm American and don't GAF what you or others think and don't GAF what others think about America. So there's that. When you bitch and moan about bar boxes you are mainly talking to yourself, carry on.
It’s a problem when Americans try to compete on the international arena.
American players used to be the best. If you are good with being a “has been” and a “used to” then enjoy it.
If players stop playing on bar boxes then room owners will get rid of them and bring in 9ft tables.
Most Americans prefer the bar box because it’s easy. There is no easy way to the top.
Why don’t you want to make America great again?
 
UP ruins the game.
Winning at pool means pocketing balls not playing the clock. This a disaster.
And handicapping rotation games by games ahead will never work, 99.9% of the time, the stronger players will win.
Adding sin upon sin, the bar box is a joke.

The 8ball shootout semi final and final had 18 break and run out, don’t tell me that bar box 8ball is harder than 9ft.
Let’s see these guys beat Filler on a 9ft.

It’s fun just as much as grabbing a house cue in a bar while having a few drinks and knocking some balls but when you want to play seriously, you’ll go to a pool hall and play on a 9ft.
This is the end of pool as we know it.

Wrong Wrong Wrong!!! You dont have to like it, watch it or support it, but its going to grow and its just another form of Pool. The same thing was said about APA, its not Pool, its hurting the game..., it bigger than BCA and Ultimate Pool probably will be too. Its not the end of Pool, its another phase another place for people who love the game to play and enjoy.

Pool needs as many formats and games as possible to attract more players and more sponsors..., $$$ is all we need
 
Must really piss-off all the big-table die-hards. To see a well run, good paying tour(run by Brits no less) have success has gotta be galling. Does ANYONE think this deal would fly on 9fts?? Hell it wouldn't even get off the ground. Mainstream pool in this country is on the 7ft table and that is not changing anytime soon.
To be honest these tables don't really meet the definition of what most people believe as a bar table. Other than their size these tables play great they use conventional set of balls good cloth its really nothing different in the game other than the table is smaller.

Years ago when I played on bar tables they were in bars that half the time there was no light hardly over the table, the balls were dirty the cue ball was much bigger than the object balls or at best was one of those weird magnetic balls And it was a completely different game. Not so today. Those are fine pool tables which I would have no problem playing on any of them.

I'm won the State bar table championship and part of the prize was a brand new valley table to be installed wherever I wanted it. I owned a pool room at the time so I had the table put in the pool room and I got to tell you it was the busiest table in the place. I seriously thought about adding three or four more.
 
What the hell are you talking about? Ultimate Pool is British.
Oh, well that’s just makes it okay now…

I don’t recall Britain being a pool powerhouse nation. The USA was… so maybe taking pool lessons from the brits is not that great of an idea 😉

Lets look at the countries that do produce the best players in the last 10 years, do they shoot on bar boxes?
 
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