Kamui Chalk

I tried the chalk Saturday at the booth in Vegas and thought it was ok.

I was about to pull the trigger but got turned off when I saw the size of the cube. It was smaller than a regular cube - shorter and smaller in diameter - the vendor wrapped their cube with tape so it would fit in a chalk holder (the one with a stick that hangs outside your pocket).

The stuff was selling in Vegas. I guess $25 overall is a cheap purchase, compared to other items you can buy....

Heck, now that I've had a few days to think it over, I'll probably pick up a cube soon only because I'm using Kamui black tips and curious about how long it really lasts.

I'm also curious about Blue Diamond chalk and hope to find that locally as well.
 
your pm's are off.. i assume pay pal ? what email are u using ?

carl shealy


Guerra Cues said:
Here is the deal guys.
Till now I was selling the Kamui chalk for $25.00 plus shipping because my wholesale was $25.00.
Having said that and after selling over 100 pieces, I am tired of loosing money to help Kamui.
I still need to buy the padded envelopes, go to the USPS, pay the payment processing fees.
Until Kamui gives me a wholesale price to sell the chalk the total price including shipping is $30.00 or I won't sell it, period. I don't make much more than a buck like that, but at least I don't loose money.
I am sick to my stomach of waiting for Kamui to make up their mind on the final wholesale price.
I am being brutally honest here, because it is how I feel.
Sorry for venting guys. The chalk it is that good but I am starting to get a bit upset at this situation.
On eBay there are several buy it now at $35.00.

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To anyone else in this thread, please allow me to apologize as the purpose of these questions are to get answers... not argue.
 
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I use it

mrinsatiable said:
Everyone who've I've personally talked to that tried it likes it.

I've tried it myself and was also very very impressed. People who play for fun can used masters/blue diamond...for those who take games seriously where wins = money.. can use Kamui.
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And play for fun! It is GOOD STUFF! Ron
 
Uhm a manufacturer setting a price is not price fixing. Price fixing is collusion amongst manufacturers. MSRPs are not required. If u contract to sell a product and the manufacture requires u to sell at a minimum price that's just a contractual agreement. Look at amazon and the whole ebook pricing model. Amazon wanted to be able to sell ebooks at lower rates but the publishers resisted and Amazon ended up losing when Apple entered the market. A few years ago LG, Sharp, and a taiwanese manufacture pleaded guilty to price fixing of lcd displays because they all agreed to sell displays at a minimum price. That is price fixing because it creates an artificial market with artificial demand. Kamui can charge whatever they want. They can contract companies to sell at a minimum price if they want. If the company doesn't want to sell it then Kamui does not have to supply them. Don't think they are right now but their dealer price is so high that dealers would lose money if they sold it for less.

Predator, although does not require dealers to sell at a specific price, does have a required Minimum Advertised Price. This restrict dealers for advertising their product for less then the price set.
 
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plhlolelnlilx said:
Amazing that we can both use Wikipedia =O Oh my goodness! Thanks for your explanation Martha but anytime a price is set in a market and anyone is forced to sell for a minimum/maximum price, that price has been fixed. It does NOT have to be just between two different manufacturers. Do you fully understand what MSRP means or do I need to reference Wiki again? Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price... phew need to breath after such an exhausting thought process. MSRP in idiots terms (for you) gives a seller and/or buyer a suggested reference point which a particular product is valued. This does NOT mean they have to sell this product at MSRP, only that the products market value has been set. Of course it is not illegal to impose rules that stop sellers from advertising certain prices.

How is this different in the AMAZING world of Kamui marketing you ask? Well golly gee, Sellers are not only required to advertise a certain price, they MUST sell at Kamui's minimum price allowance. I know, I know, you still don't follow. Here in America... Manufacturers, Distributors, Retail are not allowed to take part in business such as this. If I buy something for $2.00 and sell it for a penny, who's to stop me? The value of a product should be determined by the people buying it! I'm tired of trying to explain such a simple concept to somebody who is obviously biased and truth be told, just as abrasive as any of the others running around looking for attention.

Check Wiki for an explanation of "diluted" and let me know what it says.
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Is there also an explanation of "overreaction"? :wink:
 
Hmm, not sure if I did or not. I just noted the Predator requirement to cite a difference. Honestly, I don't know enough about the law to know if a manufacturer can or cannot require re-sellers to sell items at a specific price. But even if the couldn't, that requirement does not constitute price fixing. If it were illegal it would a different kind of violation. In this case however, is Kamui actually requiring re-sellers to sell the chalk for $25? According to Guerra Cues, his cost is $25. That could be the reason why everyone is selling it for that price, not necessarily Kamui requiring it. Here's an excerpt I found online about price fixing that I feel explains it well...

"Most state statutes provide that fixing the price of a product or service in agreement with another individual or business is illegal. The general rule provides that a vendor may not in combination with another vendor agree to set a certain price thereby creating a fixed price within a certain market. A business acting on its own and not in concert with another may use legitimate efforts to obtain the best price they can, including their ability to raise prices to the detriment of the general public.

However, conformity of prices within a given product is not illegal unless such conformity was created by a combination of vendors agreeing on a set price. For example, where competitors agree to sell their goods or services at a specified price, minimum price or maximum price and they receive profits from such an agreement, they are in violation of price fixing. Additionally, setting a price to be charged only within a certain area in order to get rid of competition or to create a monopoly is generally illegal under most state laws. A majority of states have also enacted a "Below-Sales-Cost" law wherein businesses may not sell goods below cost if they do so with anti-competitive intent or effect."

Anyway, that's my bit. I'm out of this thread.
 
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The stuff is marked 0.98 so it sounds like someone is marking it up $24.02 ? I like it and it will last a long time. 3 hours of table time cost the same. Ron
 
To respond the all the pms, if you want the Kamui chalk, make sure you include quantity, your name and email for payment purposes.


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Guerra Cues said:
To respond the all the pms, if you want the Kamui chalk, make sure you include quantity, your name and email for payment purposes.
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I can tell you that there is no more harder working or honest guy out there than Tony. When he says it cost him $25 there is no doubt about it.

If I was him I wouldn't sell it for a buck less than $35 or it would not be worth it for the time and cost involved.
 
Kamui chalk

I had a chance to try it in Vegas last week. I was using Blue Diamond on Kamui Soft tip...Not anymore ! Huge difference ...

If you are serious about your game then $25 is pocket change!
 
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