Kasson Montecillo (others) - decent table?

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Is a Kasson Montecillo a decent table for the family?
Not looking for a Gold Crown, just a good decent table for the the family.
http://www.a-1pooltables.com/kasson-pool-table-monticello.php

I've found one locally with an asking price of $775.
Original owners and have never had it re-covered; bumpers are completely shot though - have a feeling I might be able to get it for $600 as a result of needing new bumpers.

Thoughts?

Quite a few tables on Craigs List rights now.
Generally thoughts on the following regarding look or stay away:
- Southern Legacy
- Highland Billiards
- Austin
(I know I should generally be safe w/ Brunswick & Olhausen)
 
CZSteve said:
Is a Kasson Montecillo a decent table for the family?
Not looking for a Gold Crown, just a good decent table for the the family.
http://www.a-1pooltables.com/kasson-pool-table-monticello.php

I've found one locally with an asking price of $775.
Original owners and have never had it re-covered; bumpers are completely shot though - have a feeling I might be able to get it for $600 as a result of needing new bumpers.

Thoughts?

Quite a few tables on Craigs List rights now.
Generally thoughts on the following regarding look or stay away:
- Southern Legacy
- Highland Billiards
- Austin
(I know I should generally be safe w/ Brunswick & Olhausen)
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Yes, it's an ok table...meaning you won't spend too much...and you'll get your moneys worth in the long run.
 
I was a Kasson dealer in the late 90's. The furniture type hardwood tables were pretty decent. The Monticello new would have been in the $2K neighborhood. Kasson used K66 cushions with a flex strip rather then a wood featherstrip and should have OIS slate - check for a white oval sticker under the slate. If the cushions seem hard (not pliable) then replacing them is recommended during setup if you happen to buy that table.

I find it odd that you still see new Kassons advertised since the company shut down a long time ago. There was another company that supposedly bought the brand name but I don't know if the plant in Babbit, MN is still making tables for them or possibly under a different brand.
 
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Make sure you check the cushions. A lot of Kassons I have run across lately have been equipped with those cheap Cin Caro cushions and they have are been dead.
 
The cushions are COMPLETELY shot, hard as a rock.
Local movers are quoting $140 to $175 for new cushions, obviously just a generic cushion.
I'm thinking of offering $500.00
Thoughts considering adding new cushions?

Couple side questions (I'll post pics of other table later, limited bandwidth right now running thru phone as our service is down.)

- Anyone heard of Highland Billiards?
Looked at a table tonight that looked nice. Had a thin stamped plate on the apron down low. Can't find anything online about them.

Also, if cloth is in good shape how often is it able to be re-used when moving a table?
I assume it depends on how it was installed.
 
CZSteve said:
The cushions are COMPLETELY shot, hard as a rock.
Local movers are quoting $140 to $175 for new cushions, obviously just a generic cushion.
I'm thinking of offering $500.00
Thoughts considering adding new cushions?

Couple side questions (I'll post pics of other table later, limited bandwidth right now running thru phone as our service is down.)

- Anyone heard of Highland Billiards?
Looked at a table tonight that looked nice. Had a thin stamped plate on the apron down low. Can't find anything online about them.

Also, if cloth is in good shape how often is it able to be re-used when moving a table?
I assume it depends on how it was installed.
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Some mechanics opinions may differ on this but I replace all rail cloth when I redo a set of cushions, it is the most inexpensive time to redo the cloth at the time of install. Regardless, I wouldn't offer $500 for a table with dead cushions, see if he can go lower as you will need to replace the bumpers.
 
Thanks for the responses.

RE: salvaging cloth - I should have been more clear, more of a general question as the Highland table I looked at last night had cloth that was in very good condition with good cushions. I understand if replacing the cushions it only makes sense (required) to replace the cloth.

I was afraid an offer of $500 for the Kasson would be too much of a low ball offer (I understand it never hurts to ask...).
What do think a 'fair' offer would be?
The other part of the equation is my wife is OK with the Kasson (style) but would prefer a darker finish. Would trying to refinish the Kasson Monticello be a complete nightmare to attempt by a DIY'er (after installed with new cloth and best precautions to protect cushion cloth from stain)?
 
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CZSteve said:
...Would trying to refinish the Kasson Monticello be a complete nightmare ...
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Yes if the table is setup. Much easier to refinish in pieces and then assemble the table.

I'd bump that offer to $600 and hope to haggle somewhere between that and $700 (still a good buy). The fact the cushions are shot is a good negotiating point.
 
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