Keith Josey Cues
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Miles
Welcome to the forum. If you have a picture of the cue, post it.
Welcome to the forum. If you have a picture of the cue, post it.
Welcome, would love to see the cue.
Hi Jack & Jeffrey,
Thanks for the Welcome! I have been a 'viewer only' here for quite a while. I said nothing, because I had nothing to say.
Someone helped me using his Josey about 1 1/2 years ago at a hall here in Vegas (my shaft lost it's tip) and I just could not believe the hit. I ran the table with this great cue, that was so well balanced, they were clapping at my shots (it was the cue, not me) and I am sure it was very expensive with all the detail.
To make a long story short, I wanted a 'bar cue' (I drink too much and needed a 'not too expensive bar cue'). I ordered this cue from Sherri in wanting a bar cue, but since the first rack, this is now my favorite cue. It is simple, a SP I think level two from Josey, nothing very special; but a great player. But really the best cue I have ever owned, or shot with.
I will try and photo for you, but pls understand it is not a Josey beauty, I just wanted a simple cue for my local bar.
Really appreciate the Welcome.
Thank you Jack and Jeffery,
Miles
Thanks for the Welcome! I have been a 'viewer only' here for quite a while. I said nothing, because I had nothing to say.
Someone helped me using his Josey about 1 1/2 years ago at a hall here in Vegas (my shaft lost it's tip) and I just could not believe the hit. I ran the table with this great cue, that was so well balanced, they were clapping at my shots (it was the cue, not me) and I am sure it was very expensive with all the detail.
To make a long story short, I wanted a 'bar cue' (I drink too much and needed a 'not too expensive bar cue'). I ordered this cue from Sherri in wanting a bar cue, but since the first rack, this is now my favorite cue. It is simple, a SP I think level two from Josey, nothing very special; but a great player. But really the best cue I have ever owned, or shot with.
I will try and photo for you, but pls understand it is not a Josey beauty, I just wanted a simple cue for my local bar.
Really appreciate the Welcome.
Thank you Jack and Jeffery,
Miles
smokey said:
one of the things that makes Keith such a special maker is that his thoughts on cue making have always been about playability first and foremost. adorning the cue with fancy inlay work does make them more "eye" appealing but the cues have always been about the player first and then the rest. i'm sure Keith and Sherri are very happy that you enjoy the cue and i will make sure they see this thread. keep cuein' Miles!
Hi Jack & Jeffrey,
Hey Bama,
I really love your cue selections (and Pix)! To me you have really great taste (I guess because I think you like the same as art as me).
I would guess Keith buys full splices and finishes them, but I really don't know. But for sure, even his low priced SP's shoot like a shotgun (that's what I bought)! Really startling!
Best shooting cue I have ever played - no deflection with a 314/2, and deadly smooth, with total feedback.
I am not in your class (and you're older than me! maybe?; haha), you know much more than I could know if I had 20 life-times. i am just a chump that on bar tops 'usually' wins. But being a fool for beauty, I have owned a few high dollar cues here and there, and this relatively inexpensive Josey SP is the best shooter I ever played.
Hey Keith, if you visit the pros here now and then, Thanks!! I love (your/my) our cue!!!!
Miles
Hey Bama,
I really love your cue selections (and Pix)! To me you have really great taste (I guess because I think you like the same as art as me).
I would guess Keith buys full splices and finishes them, but I really don't know. But for sure, even his low priced SP's shoot like a shotgun (that's what I bought)! Really startling!
Best shooting cue I have ever played - no deflection with a 314/2, and deadly smooth, with total feedback.
I am not in your class (and you're older than me! maybe?; haha), you know much more than I could know if I had 20 life-times. i am just a chump that on bar tops 'usually' wins. But being a fool for beauty, I have owned a few high dollar cues here and there, and this relatively inexpensive Josey SP is the best shooter I ever played.
Hey Keith, if you visit the pros here now and then, Thanks!! I love (your/my) our cue!!!!
Miles
Hey Skins,
What else can I say... a Josey at even a SP price really makes a SHOOTER.
Not to mention additionally, that to me he made me such a beautiful cue (the cocobolo is just gorgeous), that is so much more than a SP, but at a SP price.
I already asked him if he can make me another cue, just for home and friends homes (not for the local bars), so I can always have the same "hit".
I can't say enough about (his/my) our SP.
Please trust me here, if you have the chance you must also try - but it seems you know them so I assume you are a dealer and already know more than I can say.
Miles
What else can I say... a Josey at even a SP price really makes a SHOOTER.
Not to mention additionally, that to me he made me such a beautiful cue (the cocobolo is just gorgeous), that is so much more than a SP, but at a SP price.
I already asked him if he can make me another cue, just for home and friends homes (not for the local bars), so I can always have the same "hit".
I can't say enough about (his/my) our SP.
Please trust me here, if you have the chance you must also try - but it seems you know them so I assume you are a dealer and already know more than I can say.
Miles
Congrats, Miles, on a fine cue. Josey cues are some of the best, most consistent hitting cues out there....terribly under-rated. His fit and finish work are outstanding. 
Since I beat skins to it...lol...to answer your's and Joe's question: Keith in fact, does craft his own finger-spliced full splice blanks...which may explain why they play so stinking well.
BTW...if you think that cue plays well now, ditch the 314 shaft for one of Keith's shafts....boy howdy!! j/k 
Lisa
Since I beat skins to it...lol...to answer your's and Joe's question: Keith in fact, does craft his own finger-spliced full splice blanks...which may explain why they play so stinking well.
BTW...if you think that cue plays well now, ditch the 314 shaft for one of Keith's shafts....boy howdy!!
j/k Lisa
smokey said:
Oh, he knows them alright.
Let's just say that if you really like the design of the inlays in your cue, you can probably thank skins for that. Lisa
Hi Lisa
Thanks for the congrats!
And I'm really not at all surprised to learn that Keith does his own splicing, and you must be right when you said "...which may explain why they play so stinking well".
Someone last week also told me I made a mistake with the 314, but I can't imagine this cue getting any better. Which of Keith's would be better; Old Growth, Standard or do you consider that both are better than the 314?
Question: Skins = Keith, huh?
Thanks,
Miles
Thanks for the congrats!
And I'm really not at all surprised to learn that Keith does his own splicing, and you must be right when you said "...which may explain why they play so stinking well".
Someone last week also told me I made a mistake with the 314, but I can't imagine this cue getting any better. Which of Keith's would be better; Old Growth, Standard or do you consider that both are better than the 314?
Question: Skins = Keith, huh?
Thanks,
Miles
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I love my josey cue its a shame I am selling it but from the offers I am getting looks like I am keeping it lol josey's cues are really top of the line
No skins does not = keith. He is affiliated with Josey cues somehow though I just forgot. fill him in skins. And oh yeah. I bought a "scabdagger" bacote from a member here with 2 314-2 shats. Sending payment for it shortly and can't wait to play with it. I will let you all know when I get it and yes I do plan on purchasing an origional josey shaft in the near future.
First two Josey Q's I saw
He made a mathced set for his cousin Billy. Billy carved up the table to bits with those things. He loved them.
Billy used to run with some guy maned Johny Armchair or something like that. Pure talent and he loved his cousin's cues. Back then only Billy played with them.
Everybody thought he was a idiot for playing with a no name cue. Then he would tell them about his cousin. The trap was set.
He ran 32 straight racks of six ball for $20 a game after a hot rod ran four on him in Milton. He really laughed when he told me about that saying " He thought he did something when he ran a 4 pack on me and sat in his chair". Then he started laughing. "So I ran 32 on his a$$",still laughing,"he pulled up!"
My buddy Billy Miles
Nick
He made a mathced set for his cousin Billy. Billy carved up the table to bits with those things. He loved them.
Billy used to run with some guy maned Johny Armchair or something like that. Pure talent and he loved his cousin's cues. Back then only Billy played with them.
Everybody thought he was a idiot for playing with a no name cue. Then he would tell them about his cousin. The trap was set.
He ran 32 straight racks of six ball for $20 a game after a hot rod ran four on him in Milton. He really laughed when he told me about that saying " He thought he did something when he ran a 4 pack on me and sat in his chair". Then he started laughing. "So I ran 32 on his a$$",still laughing,"he pulled up!"
My buddy Billy Miles
Nick
smokey said:
As already stated, skins is not Keith and Sherri.....skins is skins...lol.
I am sure if I am wrong, he will correct me, but skins is responsible for some of the inlay designs found in past cues from Joey Gold (Cog) as well as some of (or maybe even most all) of the inlay designs found in Keith's cues, it is my understanding that he now designs exclusively for Keith and Sherri. At any rate, he is extended Josey family. As to the original Josey shafts.....my experience is limited to the 'standard' Josey shaft...which is pretty darn stiff, and they're drop-dead gorgeous, btw...top quality shaftwood there...awesome playing. I plan, when I order my next Josey, to acquire one of his Timeless Timber shafts...I hear they play extremely well, and are even stiffer still...if that is possible.
Since I have no experience with the 314 shafts, I am not really sure what type of transition it would be for you...but I think in the long run, you will be happier transitioning over to a good ol' fashioned maple shaft. I might suggest starting with a 'standard' Josey shaft.....this way, you still have your 314 to fall back on, if needed while transitioning. And if, for some reason, you are just not liking it when compared to the 314, you are not out a ton of money...pretty darn reasonable money, when compared to other cuemakers. If you then find yourself really liking the 'standard' shaft, I would suggest you contacting Keith and discussing the Timeless Timber shafts with him...as he would be far better able to tell you about the differences in play between the 3. Because of their increased stiffness, they are not for everyone.I am by no means a Josey 'expert'...lol. I just know an extremely well playing cue when I get my hands on one...and my opinion is that Keith's cues are amongst the best with regards to playability...and they're not half bad looking, either.
Enjoy that cue!
Lisa
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Hi Reallybad
Are you saying that Josey's resale is not great or just the market is not so good now?
Anyway, mine is not for sale! For me it's kinda like my 1911's, bought many and never sold/traded a single one, in more years than I care to remember. Honestly, I never said this before, but I don't think I would ever let this q go. It's that sweet.
What are you unloading? Have a pic? I sent Keith an email for a new one, Ambroyna and Ebony SP if he can possible make at my weight, but I might be interested in yours too - I like about 19.2 and no wraps, no weights, I love to hold only wood and with no coring is best for me. So if the above applies, make me an offer I can't refuse.
Miles
Are you saying that Josey's resale is not great or just the market is not so good now?
Anyway, mine is not for sale! For me it's kinda like my 1911's, bought many and never sold/traded a single one, in more years than I care to remember. Honestly, I never said this before, but I don't think I would ever let this q go. It's that sweet.
What are you unloading? Have a pic? I sent Keith an email for a new one, Ambroyna and Ebony SP if he can possible make at my weight, but I might be interested in yours too - I like about 19.2 and no wraps, no weights, I love to hold only wood and with no coring is best for me. So if the above applies, make me an offer I can't refuse.
Miles
Hi a9ball
Thanks for the clarification so then; skins = Tim, huh? I should have guessed from Lisa's comment. I'm a slow witted after dark when I reach for the 'special sauce'!
I too can't wait till you receive your bacote scabdagger so I can hear your comments. Pls post some pix. I think you will be amazed at both: the beauty of the hit and and beauty of the workmanship!
"Best of Luck" with it!!
Miles
Thanks for the clarification so then; skins = Tim, huh? I should have guessed from Lisa's comment. I'm a slow witted after dark when I reach for the 'special sauce'!
I too can't wait till you receive your bacote scabdagger so I can hear your comments. Pls post some pix. I think you will be amazed at both: the beauty of the hit and and beauty of the workmanship!
"Best of Luck" with it!!
Miles
Hi Lisa
skins: yup, now I finally understand - it takes me a while sometimes, no matter, my wife thinks I'm pretty smart so all is good!
Shafts: I have about 5 Q's that I have used mostly (plus 4 or 5 others that just sit in the wall rack), 4 of the mostly used Q's were improved or greatly improved with 314 or 314/2 shafts. I gave away to a friend's son a SP with a Z shaft as it was too thin for me, and he just loved it. However, my real playing Q is a Schon STL-4 (a plain jane Schon) and for that Q I much prefer the Schon shaft. I don't really love the Schon, but really dislike linen wraps, but the cue is not too expensive and I don't mind taking to bars, it's a decent shooter.
That said, I will call Keith next week and inquire about his shafts and his feelings about them. I want another Q from him, so maybe I will just get what he feels is best for my present Josey and get 1 of each for my new Q.
You sound like an expert to me. And I feel great that you also think that Keith's Q's are amongst the best too. There are many great Q makers but I have found over the years that some are for me and others not. But that may be an individual Q as they all are different. But what was amazing for me was, when I tried a Josey in the past that I just fell in love with its hit, and when I played with my Josey (almost 2 years later), they hit exactly the same; the best I can describe it is: They HIT very CLEAN. Do you understand my meaning? It is like: Exactly what you do, is EXACTLY what you get. I don't know how t describe my meaning better.
I think soon I will list for sale some of my Q's here that just sit on the wall rack; they are not bad Q's at all, they are just not great for me. This way it will be easier for me to buy another Josey and still buy my wife her hearts desire too!!
Thanks for all the time you took to educate me!
Miles
skins: yup, now I finally understand - it takes me a while sometimes, no matter, my wife thinks I'm pretty smart so all is good!
Shafts: I have about 5 Q's that I have used mostly (plus 4 or 5 others that just sit in the wall rack), 4 of the mostly used Q's were improved or greatly improved with 314 or 314/2 shafts. I gave away to a friend's son a SP with a Z shaft as it was too thin for me, and he just loved it. However, my real playing Q is a Schon STL-4 (a plain jane Schon) and for that Q I much prefer the Schon shaft. I don't really love the Schon, but really dislike linen wraps, but the cue is not too expensive and I don't mind taking to bars, it's a decent shooter.
That said, I will call Keith next week and inquire about his shafts and his feelings about them. I want another Q from him, so maybe I will just get what he feels is best for my present Josey and get 1 of each for my new Q.
You sound like an expert to me. And I feel great that you also think that Keith's Q's are amongst the best too. There are many great Q makers but I have found over the years that some are for me and others not. But that may be an individual Q as they all are different. But what was amazing for me was, when I tried a Josey in the past that I just fell in love with its hit, and when I played with my Josey (almost 2 years later), they hit exactly the same; the best I can describe it is: They HIT very CLEAN. Do you understand my meaning? It is like: Exactly what you do, is EXACTLY what you get. I don't know how t describe my meaning better.
I think soon I will list for sale some of my Q's here that just sit on the wall rack; they are not bad Q's at all, they are just not great for me. This way it will be easier for me to buy another Josey and still buy my wife her hearts desire too!!
Thanks for all the time you took to educate me!
Miles