Knock...Knock

Matt_24

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Ok, so here is another thread on the age old subject of the "knock".

I was in Nashville last week and went to JOB's one night. I recognized a few people from 10 years ago when I lived in Nashville, but by face only. I played in the small bar table 9 ball event they have. I didn't have my cue, so I had to rent a housecue and still did ok. Won two matches and lost two. It was a short race to three, so in my losses it wasn't that I dogged it - but just didn't get an opportunity to show up.

Anyhow, let me say that everyone there was really friendly. Real nice bunch playing in and running the tournament - but there was some serious knocking going on. There were a few players there who I could tell could play. Even though I was cueless I would have tangled for some $50 sets or something for practice. There was no other gambling going on except for a ring game. I wasn't going to approach anyone, but I was waiting on someone to ask me which surprisingly didn't happen.

Anyhow, I'm sitting over on the sideline after I was knocked out and a couple of guys start talking to me and I'm not saying much just listening. They are going on and on about how this guy plays, and how good that guy is, and did you know he was running racks when he was 10 - so on and so forth. I was just thinking to myself, "Man...I didn't even ask and these guys are telling me the life story of their best players." They didn't know me from Adam, or if I even wanted to gamble but that would sure discourage someone who might be looking to gamble. I wanted to go up to him and tell him, man, these locals think the world of your game but they have you knocked to any new person before you can try and get a game. Who knows, maybe he wouldn't even care or that is just the way it is down there now. I just thought it was kind of funny.

So.....what do you think?
 
Sadly, times have changed. The days of dignity, courtesy, & honor are long gone. An offense that used to get your teeth knocked out is hardly noticed today.

You wanna quit me a winner? Fine, you be that way!
You wanna stand in my line of sight as I shoot? Fine, you be that way!
You wanna call me a lucky MF'er when I make the 9 on the snap? Fine, you be that way!
You wanna bet, but only if I give you the nuts? Fine, you be that way!
You wanna tell my sucker that he can't win? Fine, you be that way!
You wanna dump me? Fine, you be that way!
 
mosconiac said:
Sadly, times have changed. The days of dignity, courtesy, & honor are long gone. An offense that used to get your teeth knocked out is hardly noticed today.

You wanna quit me a winner? Fine, you be that way!
You wanna stand in my line of sight as I shoot? Fine, you be that way!
You wanna call me a lucky MF'er when I make the 9 on the snap? Fine, you be that way!
You wanna bet, but only if I give you the nuts? Fine, you be that way!
You wanna tell my sucker that he can't win? Fine, you be that way!
You wanna dump me? Fine, you be that way!
Sad and so, so true. I walked into a poolroom at the beach, two and a half hours from home, and asked if anyone wanted to play some for five a game (good opening line by the way). A guy at the bar said, "Sure, get us a table and grabbed his cue. He breaks dry, and I run to the four and freeze him up on the eight. He kicks and leaves me out. I run out. While he's racking the balls, a guy walks up to the table and right in front of me says,"That guy you're playin' won a bartable tournament we had across town last year. You probably need the seven and the break." Looks at me and says, "You can't steal in here. I'll get you a player, though." I was so pissed that a guy would interrupt a $5 dollar game, I told him to get me one, then. I've got fifteen minutes to wait. Of course, noone shows up.

The guy quit after that one game and told me that he just wanted something to do and had plenty of money (showing me a wad of hundreds). If I'd give him the six and the pop, he'd play me for twenty or forty a game.

My answer, "You play bad, but not that bad."

Can you believe the state of today's action?
 
Matt_24 said:
Ok, so here is another thread on the age old subject of the "knock".

I was in Nashville last week and went to JOB's one night. I recognized a few people from 10 years ago when I lived in Nashville, but by face only. I played in the small bar table 9 ball event they have. I didn't have my cue, so I had to rent a housecue and still did ok. Won two matches and lost two. It was a short race to three, so in my losses it wasn't that I dogged it - but just didn't get an opportunity to show up.

Anyhow, let me say that everyone there was really friendly. Real nice bunch playing in and running the tournament - but there was some serious knocking going on. There were a few players there who I could tell could play. Even though I was cueless I would have tangled for some $50 sets or something for practice. There was no other gambling going on except for a ring game. I wasn't going to approach anyone, but I was waiting on someone to ask me which surprisingly didn't happen.

Anyhow, I'm sitting over on the sideline after I was knocked out and a couple of guys start talking to me and I'm not saying much just listening. They are going on and on about how this guy plays, and how good that guy is, and did you know he was running racks when he was 10 - so on and so forth. I was just thinking to myself, "Man...I didn't even ask and these guys are telling me the life story of their best players." They didn't know me from Adam, or if I even wanted to gamble but that would sure discourage someone who might be looking to gamble. I wanted to go up to him and tell him, man, these locals think the world of your game but they have you knocked to any new person before you can try and get a game. Who knows, maybe he wouldn't even care or that is just the way it is down there now. I just thought it was kind of funny.

So.....what do you think?

The people that knock are the same kind of people that have been knocking for the 50+ years I have been playing, they just are not as discreet about it now because it seems like it is acceptable anymore. They are usually good players who can't gamble, bad players who want to be part of the "In Crowd" or clique in a poolroom, or sometimes just someone who wants to be the first person who is in the know. In the old days you might knock if your road partner or money man was trapped, but usually you kept your mouth shut and let them figure it out for themselves. If you were a little treacherous yourself, you gave the road player the high sign to let him know you were in or it was getting knocked. I have had to throw out a few jellyrolls over the years when I did a little traveling. Giving up part of a score was better than getting nothing because of the knock. I was never a great player, but don't look like I can play at all. I have been knocked and the guy played anyway cause they didn't believe it. John
 
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