Laser joint pin engraving

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LosOsosCues

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I am interested in getting my joint pins engraved in the future and am looking for a source. I know it might need to be a large order but am looking for someone that can do the laser engraving. I did a search and only found one result and there werent any responses for the laser engraving. Some must know so its time to spill the beans please :)

Thanks
Dustin
 
Last time I checked there was a min order of like 500 and a pretty hefty set up charge. I am going to have to dig for the name. Here is one mlpc.com
 
You might also try your local trophy shops. A lot of those shops are doing some laser work as well.
 
While talking about lasering... Someone at the big tournaments does engraving on shafts and butts of cues. I was told it was like a transfer, but when you run your hand across it it feels like etched clear coat. Any help on this one?

Dustin... If you want to engrave them, I might be able to help you. What exactly are you wanting on the pin? I can do it on the cnc machine :)
 
billiardbum said:
While talking about lasering... Someone at the big tournaments does engraving on shafts and butts of cues. I was told it was like a transfer, but when you run your hand across it it feels like etched clear coat. Any help on this one?
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I don't know about the cue, but I did watch a company at a gun show do the same thing to a gun stock. Of course, there wasn't a finish over it. But he put the stock in, set it up, shut the box, and 10 minutes later, voila. There was a little black edging around it, but the bottom was just the stock wood, nothing burned.
 
I wonder if it would be possible to sandblast the logo on a pin, simular to how glass is etched.

Greg
 
Cue Crazy said:
I wonder if it would be possible to sandblast the logo on a pin, simular to how glass is etched.

Greg
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I doubt if you would get a very good job and it would be time consuming. A rubber template must be cut out with the design that you want sandblasted and attached securely to the pin. With the pin having such a small radius, I believe the template would have a tough time sealing and not becoming distorted while wrapping around the pin.

I engrave my initials around the nose of my radial pins which takes around 2 minutes per pin. I had to draw and cam a program but that only took about 10 minutes. I don't have a Laser for engraving but never-the-less, a laser is nothing more than a different type of cutting device mounted on a CNC. I don't see where it would be very expensive to have laser work done on a pin as the program shouldn't take any longer to draw than one for a milling cutter. Find someone local and ask about cost and I bet you would be pleasantly surprised at the cost.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
I doubt if you would get a very good job and it would be time consuming. A rubber template must be cut out with the design that you want sandblasted and attached securely to the pin. With the pin having such a small radius, I believe the template would have a tough time sealing and not becoming distorted while wrapping around the pin.

I engrave my initials around the nose of my radial pins which takes around 2 minutes per pin. I had to draw and cam a program but that only took about 10 minutes. I don't have a Laser for engraving but never-the-less, a laser is nothing more than a different type of cutting device mounted on a CNC. I don't see where it would be very expensive to have laser work done on a pin as the program shouldn't take any longer to draw than one for a milling cutter. Find someone local and ask about cost and I bet you would be pleasantly surprised at the cost.

Dick
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Dickie...Like to see a pic of the pin sir... Happy Holidays buddy...
 
billiardbum said:
Dickie...Like to see a pic of the pin sir... Happy Holidays buddy...
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I hope these down load OK. The initials are wrapped around the pin so it's hard to get all in one picture. These are engraved about .025 deep and the black color in the engravings is from the buffing compound residue after polishing.

Dick

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I hope these down load OK. The initials are wrapped around the pin so it's hard to get all in one picture. These are engraved about .025 deep and the black color in the engravings is from the buffing compound residue after polishing.

Dick

Thanks for the Pics Dickie... Are you doing this once it is in the cue, or doing them in multiples with a jig? Just curious...
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rhncue said:
I hope these down load OK. The initials are wrapped around the pin so it's hard to get all in one picture. These are engraved about .025 deep and the black color in the engravings is from the buffing compound residue after polishing.

Dick
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Do you manually index for each letter?


<~~~was hoping for some "close-up" pictures...........:-}
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
Do you manually index for each letter?


<~~~was hoping for some "close-up" pictures...........:-}
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No, I just made a program for the 3 initials with the height of the letters that I wanted and the spacing and the cad/cam program generated the program. I then converted this program to change Y axis to C ( changes linear to circular ) and used the diameter of the pin where I wanted it engraved to generate a new program.

Jim, I do these ahead of time by putting the pin in my 4th axis chuck. I make two passes but I'm sure one would be enough. I have the program set to cut .040 deep in two passes using a engraving bit. I start off around .025 above the surface and let the program run. If the engravings are to shallow and not wide enough I go about .005 deeper until I get the results that I want. These initials are about .025 deep. I run these at around 30 inch per minute. These pins are brass which is soft, if I was cutting stainless I might run more, shallower passes and maybe at a slower feed rate. I don't know as I haven't done one.

I also drew a program to put my initials onto cheap joint protectors. I took my three initials and made them circular. here's a couple of pictures of them but usually they look much better as I didn't clean the dust out of the cuts and the flash made them sort of grotesque looking. I started giving these joint protectors with each cue some time ago as they used to be hard to find for a Radial pin although that is no longer the case.

Dick

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No, I just made a program for the 3 initials with the height of the letters that I wanted and the spacing and the cad/cam program generated the program. I then converted this program to change Y axis to C ( changes linear to circular ) and used the diameter of the pin where I wanted it engraved to generate a new program.

Jim, I do these ahead of time by putting the pin in my 4th axis chuck. I make two passes but I'm sure one would be enough. I have the program set to cut .040 deep in two passes using a engraving bit. I start off around .025 above the surface and let the program run. If the engravings are to shallow and not wide enough I go about .005 deeper until I get the results that I want. These initials are about .025 deep. I run these at around 30 inch per minute. These pins are brass which is soft, if I was cutting stainless I might run more, shallower passes and maybe at a slower feed rate. I don't know as I haven't done one.

I also drew a program to put my initials onto cheap joint protectors. I took my three initials and made them circular. here's a couple of pictures of them but usually they look much better as I didn't clean the dust out of the cuts and the flash made them sort of grotesque looking. I started giving these joint protectors with each cue some time ago as they used to be hard to find for a Radial pin although that is no longer the case.

Dick
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I do the same for the JP at this time. I figured you did the pins in quanities, which I would do also. I will work on it this weekend and post some pics if I get them done. Thanks Dickie for the help... Jim
 
i have a setup for my cnc i can do our own 3/8-11 pins if anyone needs 3/8-11 brass pins with engraving we can do them there 12.00 dollars each
pin and engraving $25.00 0ne time programing fee i will have examples at the derby
 
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