Layeres tip that holds it's profile..

karambolista

karambolista

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I've used Talisman Pro and Hercules layered tips and trimmed/retrimmed it to a dime shape but after a while it turns into a nickel shape.

Does anyone know of a good medium layered tip that holds it shape for a long time?
 
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Try a Killer if you can find one or a Moori. They work very well and hold their shape.---Smitty
 
Harold Smith said:
Try a Killer if you can find one or a Moori. They work very well and hold their shape.---Smitty
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That is the very reason I have been using the Sniper. I uased to change tips at least once monthly and Then Ron Geyer of Custom Cue Connection talked me into giving Sniper and try. He usually cuts it down just once and it stays there.
 
ironman said:
That is the very reason I have been using the Sniper. I uased to change tips at least once monthly and Then Ron Geyer of Custom Cue Connection talked me into giving Sniper and try. He usually cuts it down just once and it stays there.
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I've tried the Sniper before, I don't remember though if it hold it shape for a long time - it delaminated on me. The guy from Tiger Products told me that I might have installed it the wrong way - never tried the brand again.
 
I use Moorri medium and have never had a problem with delaminating or having to reshape them any more than I do a nonlaminated tip. I do try to keep my tips burnished though to prevent mushrooming.

FWIW,

Jim
 
karambolista said:
I've used Talisman Pro and Hercules layered tips and trimmed/retrimmed it to a dime shape but after a while it turns into a nickel shape.

Does anyone know of a good medium layered tip that holds it shape for a long time?
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The key word here is "medium" tip. How much a tip moves is based on it's hardness; that is, imo, the only determining factor when it comes to maintaining curvature/mushrooming. I've tried nearly every tip there is out there, and that is my conclusion.

The harder the tip, the less it will move on you. It really is that simple. Moori Quicks, Molavia Hards (very hard tips), even hard single layered tips like a hard triangle (what I use now) will move less than any medium tip, layered or not.

And btw, I've found that people's definition of "mushrooming" varies widely. I consider the very slightest deviation from the ferrule's plane mushrooming, while other players can wait until they actually see the overhanging leather when they sight down the shaft.

-Roger (maniacally trims and burnish tips)
 
I have good luck with Morri's & Tigers. Tips change shape is part of the thing tip do. 600 Grit Sand Paper to do a little shaping intermittently will keep em the right shape.
 
If the tip is constantly changeing to a nickel radius, thats telling you something. It looks to me like the way you shoot the cueball, nickel radius is the way to go. The tip will only change its shape with contact with the cueball. If it goes to a nickel shape, that means you arent using enough english on your shots to form a dime radius.
 
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Interesting, that's what I "feel". That maintaining tip radius is at least a partial function of using english.
 
seiyaryu55 said:
If the tip is constantly changeing to a nickel radius, thats telling you something. It looks to me like the way you shoot the cueball, nickel radius is the way to go. The tip will only change its shape with contact with the cueball. If it goes to a nickel shape, that means you arent using enough english on your shots to form a dime radius.
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That makes total sense.
I never thought about it like that before but thank you.

Koop
 
seiyaryu55 said:
If the tip is constantly changeing to a nickel radius, thats telling you something. It looks to me like the way you shoot the cueball, nickel radius is the way to go. The tip will only change its shape with contact with the cueball. If it goes to a nickel shape, that means you arent using enough english on your shots to form a dime radius.
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I agree wholeheartedly. I shoot primarily with a Talisman medium tip, when I shape it first off, I give it a dime radius. After playing with it for a while, it flattens out a touch, and then doesn't change. Last time I checked it, the radius was inbetween a dime and a nickel. I get plenty of english when I want it, no complaints there. And I never have to reshape it, just chalk up before each shot.

Flex
 
DZilla said:
No one else mentioned Kamui, perhaps try one out. :)
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I can second that, I've been using Kamui hard tips for the last year and love them. However I have the opposite problem - A nickel-radius tip turns into a dime (12.75mm tip) but it take about a month for this to happen to me with average play and a hard tip like the Kamui.
 
seiyaryu55 said:
If the tip is constantly changeing to a nickel radius, thats telling you something. It looks to me like the way you shoot the cueball, nickel radius is the way to go. The tip will only change its shape with contact with the cueball. If it goes to a nickel shape, that means you arent using enough english on your shots to form a dime radius.
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Right on the money. The way you chalk and play affects the shape of the tip. Don't fight it. Put it one, shape it once and play with it. If it mushrooms a little then trim it and shape it again. Then leave it alone.
 
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