"A slip-stroke is the shortest and earliest of strokes! When your grip hand closes on the butt your stroke is at that point completed."
the Beard[/QUOTE]
Hi Freddy,
I bought your book "Banking with the Beard" and loved it. Thanks for writing it. I have also been a big fan of your commentating on Accustats. You're both informative and entertaining. But I'm having a hard time with your description of the "slip stroke". If you're uncomfortable about this thread, I totally respect your silence. My email is ebilliards@comcast.net if you would like to take this offline, but I'm sure the readers would be interested.
I have played 3-cushion for many years and have had a natural slip stroke up until the last 5 years (no place to play 3C so I wanted to learn how to pocket balls, not just do stuff w/the cue ball). I also have known and worked with Allen Gilbert, one of the premier 3-cushion players this country has produced since Hoppe days (Sang Lee was not produced in this country, rest his soul), who also had a slip stroke. It has always appeared to me that the slip stroke allowed me more cue control w/a longer follow through when needed. It was similar to holding the cue a little further back for more power or a longer stroke if needed, but with more control at set up because my stroke arm was set tighter to my body. My grip, once tightened after the "slip", could be adjusted based on what I felt was needed for the shot at hand. In other words, I didn't feel the "slip stroke" inhibited my delivering the different type of strokes dicussed in this thread or that my stroke was completed after the grip hand tightened, it just set may hand further back on the cue before delivery. Does any of this make sense?
Freddy, I really respect your knowledge of pool and stroke and expect that this is a semantics thing, but I would love to hear more. Of course, this is exactly what you were trying to avoid, sorry.
Strokingly yours, Dave
the Beard[/QUOTE]
Hi Freddy,
I bought your book "Banking with the Beard" and loved it. Thanks for writing it. I have also been a big fan of your commentating on Accustats. You're both informative and entertaining. But I'm having a hard time with your description of the "slip stroke". If you're uncomfortable about this thread, I totally respect your silence. My email is ebilliards@comcast.net if you would like to take this offline, but I'm sure the readers would be interested.
I have played 3-cushion for many years and have had a natural slip stroke up until the last 5 years (no place to play 3C so I wanted to learn how to pocket balls, not just do stuff w/the cue ball). I also have known and worked with Allen Gilbert, one of the premier 3-cushion players this country has produced since Hoppe days (Sang Lee was not produced in this country, rest his soul), who also had a slip stroke. It has always appeared to me that the slip stroke allowed me more cue control w/a longer follow through when needed. It was similar to holding the cue a little further back for more power or a longer stroke if needed, but with more control at set up because my stroke arm was set tighter to my body. My grip, once tightened after the "slip", could be adjusted based on what I felt was needed for the shot at hand. In other words, I didn't feel the "slip stroke" inhibited my delivering the different type of strokes dicussed in this thread or that my stroke was completed after the grip hand tightened, it just set may hand further back on the cue before delivery. Does any of this make sense?
Freddy, I really respect your knowledge of pool and stroke and expect that this is a semantics thing, but I would love to hear more. Of course, this is exactly what you were trying to avoid, sorry.
Strokingly yours, Dave