Learning the roll of the table, ect....

catpool9

"Rack Um"/ Rusty Lock
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When you go from city to city, town to town , nightclub to bar, or poolhall to rec-center, or just acrossd town to your favorite room, when you get there how do you learn the rolls of the table, if you don't already know them?

This may seem to be not important but it is Very Important to Know. Is the cloth fast or slow, do rails bounce short or long, fast or slow, I myself like to shoot the cue ball from corner to corner and see the roll off , and do it from each corner of the table.

Then I like to drop the cue ball a few inches high from the side pocket center diamond to center diamond, to see if and where the cue ball drifts.

I like to bank three or four shots into the side and shoot long rail banks, then you have a good mind set of how the table rolls, and if it rolls one way or the other ( left or right ) , you can play it to your advantage, I do it all the time, and it can be the ( ONE ) Most Advantageous thing you ever do for winning the game or match!


What do you do?........to make the table your own?


David Harcrow
 
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Turn off those damn bull flashin lights gringo, they make all the orifices in my body go away. Damn, I want to jump out and assume the position.

Back to your questions, how do you get to Carneigh hall.


Practice, practice, practice.....................:thumbup:
 
Table Roll

I do corner to corner kicks and 2 3 4 and 5 rail kicks then I set the ball up on the second diamond at the head and the cueball out about 2 inches from the rail on the second diamond from the foot and see if I can draw to either side of a ball frozen to the bottom rail in the middle. If I can't I adjust to see what the limit is. then I come around for shape 3 rails on the same shot , adjusting if 2 inches won't work.
I also bounce the cueball into the rails all the way around the table to find dead spots.
I check the cueball with 2 other balls to see if it is smaller or larger.
I play 1 pocket so I have 4 or 5 shots I use to see what balls I can get out of the pockets and control the cueball .
If I didn't miss so much I would be a pretty good player.
One last secret a player told me was to start out shooting a little firm, he said its a lot easier to tone it down a little than to try to hit just a little harder.
 
Turn off those damn bull flashin lights gringo, they make all the orifices in my body go away. Damn, I want to jump out and assume the position.

Back to your questions, how do you get to Carneigh hall.


Practice, practice, practice.....................:thumbup:



Bye, Bye , Poncho...:thumbup:


CATMAN
 
IMO...the 3 rail track is the base of how any table plays....Everything else falls in line with whatever the 3 rail track shows you. :)
 
IMO...the 3 rail track is the base of how any table plays....Everything else falls in line with whatever the 3 rail track shows you.

I second that :)

I also like to throw some practice lags down the table and shoot some cross side and cross corner banks to get a feel for the rails.
 
ive noticed many times, here will be one, or maybe 2 jumpy (or dead) rails. the 3 rail test thing wont do much to cure you there-- unless you're perceptive enough to see the ball fly off that rail and come short.... which maybe you are. i tend to just think less about this now, but i think a good strategy is to get a good feel for inconsistencies in the rails, if present. other than that though, i think you need to "adjust" to tables by the way you play.... try rolling less balls, forcing the ball forward on straight in shots is a good one. i notice we all roll safties WAY too softly sometimes, from very long distance. this can never be good. maybe an offensive bank or other shot is better.... you get the point.
 
Being Observant of the table rolls

ive noticed many times, here will be one, or maybe 2 jumpy (or dead) rails. the 3 rail test thing wont do much to cure you there-- unless you're perceptive enough to see the ball fly off that rail and come short.... which maybe you are. i tend to just think less about this now, but i think a good strategy is to get a good feel for inconsistencies in the rails, if present. other than that though, i think you need to "adjust" to tables by the way you play.... try rolling less balls, forcing the ball forward on straight in shots is a good one. i notice we all roll safties WAY too softly sometimes, from very long distance. this can never be good. maybe an offensive bank or other shot is better.... you get the point.


Good post, sound advice, I forgot about spotting those dead spots on a table, sometime it's not as noticeable as others and a player just can't seem to figure out why he's comming up bad on shape.


David Harcrow
 
Table Adjustments

I do corner to corner kicks and 2 3 4 and 5 rail kicks then I set the ball up on the second diamond at the head and the cueball out about 2 inches from the rail on the second diamond from the foot and see if I can draw to either side of a ball frozen to the bottom rail in the middle. If I can't I adjust to see what the limit is. then I come around for shape 3 rails on the same shot , adjusting if 2 inches won't work.
I also bounce the cueball into the rails all the way around the table to find dead spots.
I check the cueball with 2 other balls to see if it is smaller or larger.
I play 1 pocket so I have 4 or 5 shots I use to see what balls I can get out of the pockets and control the cueball .
If I didn't miss so much I would be a pretty good player.
One last secret a player told me was to start out shooting a little firm, he said its a lot easier to tone it down a little than to try to hit just a little harder.



Yes these methods too will serve you well, I've always noticed the better players get the table roll down in only a short time, and that makes the differance between winning and losing!


David Harcrow
 
Table roll , across the bed of the table

IMO...the 3 rail track is the base of how any table plays....Everything else falls in line with whatever the 3 rail track shows you. :)


I need to start paying attention more, I know your right , I've seen great champions using this method, and I never really took it to heart that this was the proper way to figure table roll, but it is.



David Harcrow
 
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