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Learning to shoot pool is like learning to operate a boat
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Awww, Champ! We still luv ya even when you subconsciously embarrass and out yourself without knowing it! :smile:
I pretty much agree with the original poster.
I have had a sailboat for decades. Started out reading many books, picked up a library from a sailor back from a multi-year cruise, took courses on all the good stuff like coastal navigation, celestial navigation, diesel mechanics.
Sailing is simple. Set the sails, go where the wind takes you. Getting to where you want to go requires more management. Naomi James, after only a couple of years experience, sailed a 53 ft. borrowed yacht around the world, solo, non-stop, in record time. She didn't figure out that she was doing celestial navigation wrong until she was a long way from home. Fortunately, she was still in the middle of the Atlantic, so there was nothing to run into.
All the instruction and book learning doesn't mean you can execute under pressure. No responsible instructor would claim to be able to fix a student. The student has to make each nugget his own.
When I started playing again after many years I read much. Found this place. Spent some time with a top instructor. I don't make any claims about my play, and I don't spent many hours practicing. It is social play amongst friends. But I know what is possible.
A neighbour called, wanting to play 9-ball. I play snooker, and used to play 8-ball, never played 9-ball. During the match, my opponent parked the two ball near a pocket. My shot put the one ball into the two, pocketing the two. The cue ball went into the nine and pocketed it. I had previously announced that the shot was to sink both balls. I knew the shot was there, whether I could execute ...
My neighbour has never called for another game.
I have had a sailboat for decades. Started out reading many books, picked up a library from a sailor back from a multi-year cruise, took courses on all the good stuff like coastal navigation, celestial navigation, diesel mechanics.
Sailing is simple. Set the sails, go where the wind takes you. Getting to where you want to go requires more management. Naomi James, after only a couple of years experience, sailed a 53 ft. borrowed yacht around the world, solo, non-stop, in record time. She didn't figure out that she was doing celestial navigation wrong until she was a long way from home. Fortunately, she was still in the middle of the Atlantic, so there was nothing to run into.
All the instruction and book learning doesn't mean you can execute under pressure. No responsible instructor would claim to be able to fix a student. The student has to make each nugget his own.
When I started playing again after many years I read much. Found this place. Spent some time with a top instructor. I don't make any claims about my play, and I don't spent many hours practicing. It is social play amongst friends. But I know what is possible.
A neighbour called, wanting to play 9-ball. I play snooker, and used to play 8-ball, never played 9-ball. During the match, my opponent parked the two ball near a pocket. My shot put the one ball into the two, pocketing the two. The cue ball went into the nine and pocketed it. I had previously announced that the shot was to sink both balls. I knew the shot was there, whether I could execute ...
My neighbour has never called for another game.
i thought your next victim was Neil after Jb has been banned, dont tell me your going to start chasing me around the site? :grin:
I'm planning on playing this afternoon. :thumbup:
Why aren't you out playing instead of trolling the forums?
I don't need to go out to play. Plus, I have already explained yet again an aiming system for kicks on here this morning. What have you done besides troll?? I'm still waiting to read a post of yours that isn't just trolling. You complain because some of my posts are negative now. What, are you afraid I might catch up to your negative posts count?? Almost ALL your posts are negative.
Is there any video of instructors playing I could watch? Does anyone think someone (instructor) could teach advanced pool and be a B player? I personally like Lou, Patrick and many others posts. They are very intellegent posters. I have noticed anyone who doesn't accept their aiming systems is attacked by the same people everytime. I also like some of your post Neil, so, please take this from someone who has no dog in this hunt!
Is there any video of instructors playing I could watch? Does anyone think someone (instructor) could teach advanced pool and be a B player? I personally like Lou, Patrick and many others posts. They are very intellegent posters. I have noticed anyone who doesn't accept their aiming systems is attacked by the same people everytime. I also like some of your post Neil, so, please take this from someone who has no dog in this hunt!
As long as you have been here, and you ask a question like that?? I take it you don't read much on here. Your questions are answered in many posts on here. I'm not doing a rehash or going to go to any other steps than to say that Lou is the only one you mentioned that has any game in them as far as the ones you prefer to read. The instructors on here all have or have had a game. Some of them are pros. Some have played in recent pro events.
Just got back from a few hours of playing pool. Had a good time! Too bad you spent your afternoon trolling the forum instead of having fun playing pool. You could learn something even from Duckie: "instead of talking about pool, go play."
While you may not agree with Duckie's comments, he has every right to post here too. So put him on "ignore" if you don't like what he has to say. Your constant need to bully, insult and berate people doesn't say much about you as a person or as an instructor.
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But your constant need to troll says a lot about you.
Plus, I never said that he has no right to post. But you already knew that, you just want to troll and put words in my mouth. And, despite your B.S. statement that I constantly bully and insult and berate people, the truth is quite the opposite. As my posting shows. So, who's being the one bullying and spreading false accusations now? As usual, YOU. Plus, your statements are rather funny coming from someone that ONLY does what you say others do.Keep on practicing, maybe one of these years you can make it up to APA 6 level.
And, since you never seem to like anything I have to say, please put me on ignore.
One can read any number of threads to see how you bully, insult and berate people.
Your disrespectful comments in the Lori Shampo thread, for example, was a real eye-opener about the kind of person you are. http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=218739
Or one can read "A long comment on "aiming systems" for more affirmations on how you insult people: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=3434559#post3434559
You are such a tool. As I said then, if someone wants to knock me just because I said in a post ten years after her death that I had beaten her and wasn't that impressed with her, then have at it. Funny though how I don't see people knocking those that said they beat Grady a few weeks after his death.
And, once again, you have done nothing but prove that you are nothing more than a troll. Why haven't you posted any of the other 9, 439 posts of mine? I would post one of your worthwhile posts, but I can't seem to find even one.
As far as me insulting people, I have no problem speaking my mind and the truth. It's just the people like you that deserve it have a big problem with it because you are usually the one on the receiving end.
So, until you have anything to add to this forum other than your petty childish drivel, trolling, and trying to be someone by seeing how many people you can get banned, anything you say to me or about me doesn't mean spit. In the big scheme of things, you are nothing more than a mosquito. You feel important because you constantly get people to swat at you, and aren't smart enough to figure out that they just want the pest that brings nothing but disease to the forums to go away. Guys like you are what have brought this forums membership viewing down to about a 1/3 of what it was.
Neil, this sucks for you because he has now set his sites on youhe will relentlessly follow your postings like he did with JB and he will try and trash you at every opportunity he gets! it maybe best to put him on ignore and let him move onto another victim
No, it's people like him that have destroyed this forum. I'm sure he has reported me to the mods by now. If this is what they want the forums to be, they can keep him doing his trolling. If they want a better forum, they can put a stop to him and those like him. If they want to ban me for anything I said, I ask them to make it a permanent ban and remove ALL my posts. It's up to them what they want this place to be. If they can't see that guys like him have cost them money, then so be it.
I feel your attack on duckie was unwarranted. Your attack on me and my reading capabilities and the stories I write are also unwarranted. And I think Pool SharkAllen is right.
Lou Figueroa
Good for you Lou. Saying you write nice stories is an attack now, huh?? Geesh, some of you are real tools.
I don't really give a darn what you think Lou.You know Lou, for someone that writes pretty well, you sure can't read worth a lick. Duckie starts a thread that is nothing more than another slam against any instructors on here, I respond to HIS attack, and you say it is unwarranted. No, what IS unwarranted is Duckie, poolsharkallens, and your stupid comments meant to do nothing but attack me because I happen to advocate aiming systems and instruction on here. Two things that are guaranteed to bring you three out to do nothing more than knock them or anyone that posts about them, whether they were mentioned or not. Want to know whats wrong with pool? Guys like you three.
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The only thing the OP mentions about 'instructors':
Same with pool. You can read, study, bullshit all you want about shooting pool, but until you get out there and do it, you can never learn and truly understanding the dynamics of pool. Just like I can talk like a boater doesn't make me one.
Kinda like some on where that talk like instructors, but really aren't.
Sounds like an attack on those self-confessed experts who infest this place, asserting their theories, disparaging their critics, and who are manifestly wrong. And who can't play.
Some are born great, some achieve greatness, some thrust greatness upon themselves.
OP compared pool to boating.
There are sailors who own a boat that never leaves the dock.
There are sailors who only sail on warm sunny days with moderate winds that are not coming from a direction that will make return to port difficult, and who do their best sailing around the bar.
There are sailors who know how to take care of their boat and themselves in any conditions.
Pool has bangers, drunken league players for whom pool is a social event, and serious players seeking to keep their game together no matter what the pressure. Seems like a pretty good analogy to me.
I don't hang around here much.
Do Neil and Duckie have a history?
Same with pool. You can read, study, bullshit all you want about shooting pool, but until you get out there and do it, you can never learn and truly understanding the dynamics of pool. Just like I can talk like a boater doesn't make me one.
Kinda like some on where that talk like instructors, but really aren't.
Sounds like an attack on those self-confessed experts who infest this place, asserting their theories, disparaging their critics, and who are manifestly wrong.
And who can't play.Some are born great, some achieve greatness, some thrust greatness upon themselves.
OP compared pool to boating.
There are sailors who own a boat that never leaves the dock.
There are sailors who only sail on warm sunny days with moderate winds that are not coming from a direction that will make return to port difficult, and who do their best sailing around the bar.
There are sailors who know how to take care of their boat and themselves in any conditions.
Pool has bangers, drunken league players for whom pool is a social event, and serious players seeking to keep their game together no matter what the pressure. Seems like a pretty good analogy to me.
I don't hang around here much.
Do Neil and Duckie have a history?
from an unbiased observer seems like there's more drama here than in "all my children"
Know what chine walking is? You can Google it, read about it, understand it, but until you have a boat that gets into that condition, you have no clue what it feels like and you have no idea how the adjustments you make, changes the feel of chine walking.
See the key word if feel here. You have to feel how a boat is handling base on the current conditions of the water. You have to learn to make the necessary adjust based solely on feel. The only way to get this feel is by being there doing it. Every time I go out on the boat, my sense of feel for the boat increases.
Using spin in shot making is like learning how to deal with chine walking. You can read, study all you want, but until you do it, you will never get the feel for it. And the more you do it the more feeling you will get for using spin.
As the playing conditions change you need to know how to adjust and what those adjustments feel like. Experience is the only way to do it.
FYI, I haven't read any of the reply's, but from PM I got and from seeing those that have posted the most, it appears its the same ole BS from those suffering from SDS.....Small Dick Syndrome.
I post for those that do get something, good or bad, out of what I do write. I do not care if anyone agrees with me or not. I speak my mind and move on. Seems like there are alot on this forum that can not do this. This is why I seldom reply. Sometimes I like to start a post to just see the comments and keep out of it as not to side track it.
There has been a mind set developing that if anyone say anything contrary to the prima donna's of the board, no matter how nice or non threatening way, they are labeled as troublemakers or don't know what they are talking about and so on. Really sad to see this because this type of attack prevents those that might have something to add not to in order to get flamed.
Anyway, had a great time at Lake Nacimiento this weekend with the boat. Smooth water, no crowds , warm weather and some watching boating idiots always make for some fun times. Its like after you been playing pool for a while, you can spot the rookies and boating rookies are the funnest to watch especially at the dock.
Again and just like shooting pool, you can read all bout docking, talk to all kinds of people watch people dock, but until you try to dock a boat, you have no idea what they are truly talking about or what you are watching. Boat ain't got no brakes, wind and currents are not always your friends, the slower the speed, the less the steering and so on.
See the key word if feel here. You have to feel how a boat is handling base on the current conditions of the water. You have to learn to make the necessary adjust based solely on feel. The only way to get this feel is by being there doing it. Every time I go out on the boat, my sense of feel for the boat increases.
Using spin in shot making is like learning how to deal with chine walking. You can read, study all you want, but until you do it, you will never get the feel for it. And the more you do it the more feeling you will get for using spin.
As the playing conditions change you need to know how to adjust and what those adjustments feel like. Experience is the only way to do it.
FYI, I haven't read any of the reply's, but from PM I got and from seeing those that have posted the most, it appears its the same ole BS from those suffering from SDS.....Small Dick Syndrome.
I post for those that do get something, good or bad, out of what I do write. I do not care if anyone agrees with me or not. I speak my mind and move on. Seems like there are alot on this forum that can not do this. This is why I seldom reply. Sometimes I like to start a post to just see the comments and keep out of it as not to side track it.
There has been a mind set developing that if anyone say anything contrary to the prima donna's of the board, no matter how nice or non threatening way, they are labeled as troublemakers or don't know what they are talking about and so on. Really sad to see this because this type of attack prevents those that might have something to add not to in order to get flamed.
Anyway, had a great time at Lake Nacimiento this weekend with the boat. Smooth water, no crowds , warm weather and some watching boating idiots always make for some fun times. Its like after you been playing pool for a while, you can spot the rookies and boating rookies are the funnest to watch especially at the dock.
Again and just like shooting pool, you can read all bout docking, talk to all kinds of people watch people dock, but until you try to dock a boat, you have no idea what they are truly talking about or what you are watching. Boat ain't got no brakes, wind and currents are not always your friends, the slower the speed, the less the steering and so on.
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