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Newbie here, and to pool in general. Building out a pool room now planning to put in a Diamond Pro. I found the LED lights that Brian B. sells and really like them and think they will work out great. I'm thinking 2 2x2's for aesthetics even at a slightly higher cost than the single 2x4. Both would work but I think 2 2x2's will look better the way I'm planning to install them

Anyone install these and have thoughts/advise on them in either config (single 2x4 or 2 2x2s)? Planning on the 'daylight' 4800K version as Brian indicated this is the most common and doesn't have that harsh blue 'institutional' light.

Planning to order soon to keep the project moving.

Any advise, opinions, experiences greatly appreciated.


Thanks
 
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I would go the two 2x2's so you can sopace and entend the light more. I currently have a Centennial up, my light it a 4 lamp brass antique that always used 4 60 watt bulbs. While it looked great, I always could have used more light. Recently I had 4 LED bulbs installed and the difference is dramatic. LED is the way to go.
 
If you do a search on AZ Main, I believe that if that thread is still around, you should be able to see some pics of that project.

Not 100% if that was Brian but kinda think it was. Or do a Search for threads started by Brian's username.
 
Good choice

Led is really a good choice of light if its not to bright and if its not softened.

Please let me explain, Led is the only light that doesn't emit electromagnetic polarized light. AKA glare.

The light brightness should be low and un defused, if you try to defuse LED lighting then the light will have polarized light in it and everything the polarized light strikes will have polarized reflection AKA GLARE.


To see if you have hard or soft light put you hand between the lights and the table
if your hand casts a sharp line shadow you have hard lighting and I think that could be a problem.

Good luck
 
2 2x2 I think would be the best. I've read and heard some minor complaints about brightness and shadows from a 2x4 on a 9ft. 2x2's will give you the option to space them if need be.
 

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Thanks for the responses. My primary question now is whether the 4800K version will be too blue,. giving that institutional look. I've seen LEDs (not these flat panels) in a lighting store that were 4000K and they seemed fairly blue, implying that the 3500K version may be better. I'm concerned that the light will be harsh and make the room look like a hospital without a warm/intimate feel.. Apparently the 4800K is the typical version purchased. Anyone have experience with the 4800K and 3500K versions of these panels?


Thanks
 
Bumping to see if anyone has experience with LED panel lights and can provide guidance on color temp. Worried that the 4800K will be too blue, but don't want to go with the 3500K version if they aren't good for over a table.


Thanks
 
kanecalgary said:
2 2x2 I think would be the best. I've read and heard some minor complaints about brightness and shadows from a 2x4 on a 9ft. 2x2's will give you the option to space them if need be.
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Are the "complaints" you've read from owners or Internet readers?
 
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mkjj123 said:
Bumping to see if anyone has experience with LED panel lights and can provide guidance on color temp. Worried that the 4800K will be too blue, but don't want to go with the 3500K version if they aren't good for over a table.


Thanks
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Please post a link to the lights you wish to buy.
You could ask the company who is selling them what natural color spectrum does LED light produce. then ask them if the human eye can see that color.
You can buy different color LED lights.
 
Cornerman said:
Are the "complaints" you've read from owners or Internet readers?
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Complaints were from players that I know personally from a city that's 2 and a half hours away.

Our local pool hall just reopened with these led lights installed (2×4 on 9fts, 1x4 on 7fts) on Saturday. I'm not really impressed or were the guys I played with. Started with 9ft action and the table is dimmer closer to end rails with shadows probably from the pot lights above. That doesn't really bother me and you don't notice when playing. For the first hour my eyes were bugging me from glare/sidelight to the point I would have to look away when my opponent shot to give my eyes a break. The hall is pretty dark and may cause the light to seem more extreme on the eyes IDK. I eventually got use to it and played for 8 hours without it bothering me again.

The owner also agrees and formed his own opinion of the glare/sidelight before we talked. I believe with some type of small shade or lip and a longer than 4ft light these would be nice. They look great.

This is my experience and I will get reviews from the players at the first tourney next weekend.
 
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kanecalgary said:
Complaints were from players that I know personally from a city that's 2 and a half hours away.

Our local pool hall just reopened with these led lights installed (2×4 on 9fts, 1x4 on 7fts) on Saturday. I'm not really impressed or were the guys I played with. Started with 9ft action and the table is dimmer closer to end rails with shadows probably from the pot lights above. That doesn't really bother me and you don't notice when playing. For the first hour my eyes were bugging me from glare/sidelight to the point I would have to look away when my opponent shot to give my eyes a break. The hall is pretty dark and may cause the light to seem more extreme on the eyes IDK. I eventually got use to it and played for 8 hours without it bothering me again.

The owner also agrees and formed his own opinion of the glare/sidelight before we talked. I believe with some type of small shade or lip and a longer than 4ft light these would be nice. They look great.

This is my experience and I will get reviews from the players at the first tourney next weekend.
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DIRECT LED LIGHTING DOESNT EMIT ELECTROMAGNETIC POLARIZED WAVES..

IN LESS IT IS REFLECTED OR ITS SOFTENED OR DEFUSED ..............................

IF you would do a study of light and reflection then you would understand what causes GLARE.

Glare or reflection is polarized and UV waves striking a smooth non metallic surface..

Light shinning through a white bed sheet will cause non polarized light to become polarized.

Non polarized light shinning on a wall and the light being reflected off the wall will then be polarized light.


Glare or reflection can be filtered out, Linear polarized film over the light will cut down the polarized reflection.

You will still have some UV reflection but its not as blinding polarized reflection.

IF you think you have a problem with polarized reflection place a piece of chrome on the pool table and take a picture of it.

In the picture where the light reflection is if that reflection is blue then your light is polarized................................................
 
mortuarymike-nv said:
DIRECT LED LIGHTING DOESNT EMIT ELECTROMAGNETIC POLARIZED WAVES..

IN LESS IT IS REFLECTED OR ITS SOFTENED OR DEFUSED ..............................

IF you would do a study of light and reflection then you would understand what causes GLARE.

Glare or reflection is polarized and UV waves striking a smooth non metallic surface..

Light shinning through a white bed sheet will cause non polarized light to become polarized.

Non polarized light shinning on a wall and the light being reflected off the wall will then be polarized light.


Glare or reflection can be filtered out, Linear polarized film over the light will cut down the polarized reflection.

You will still have some UV reflection but its not as blinding polarized reflection.

IF you think you have a problem with polarized reflection place a piece of chrome on the pool table and take a picture of it.

In the picture where the light reflection is if that reflection is blue then your light is polarized................................................
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I was trying to get across that when seated the light needs a shade to keep the light directly focused on the table and not outwards. It's hard on my eyes and others to view the table directly with the light still hitting you from the sidelines. Again it may be the halls environment that makes this effect worse.

Glare was the wrong term.
 
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kanecalgary said:
I was trying to get across that when seated the light needs a shade to keep the light directly focused on the table and not outwards. It's hard on my eyes and others to view the table directly with the light still hitting you from the sidelines. Again it may be the halls environment that makes this effect worse.

Glare was the wrong term.
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Linear polarized film curtains around the light would help but its not cheap.

I do allot of product photography on items that have a smooth surface and is the only reason why I have research the subject of light.

Just keep these laws in mind ,any light that is bounced or reflected or passes through some kind of light defuser like a white bed sheet produces polarized light.
When polarized light strikes any non metallic smooth surface the polarized light will become polarized reflection. AKA glare.

I think LED lighting for a pool table is great because the light is not polarized.

Getting the lights brightness will take some research or trial and error to get the light just right.

If you want to learn about light the BOOK called Light Science and Magic is very informational but it is a book on photography.
 
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