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Right now I am looking at a few break cues. One is a jump break. I am looking at these options now and all are around 150$ give or take maybe 25$ used in good condition.
Anyone use any of these cues and have opinions please share!

Lucasi Big Beulah

Jacoby Heavy Hitter

Last is a lucasi 3 peice jump break cue.
 
Have you looked at J&J break/jump? Also a used Sledgehammer or Anvil maybe also be within your $150 budget.
 
My advice would be to buy a cheapo breaker and equip it with a good tip; Samsara breaktip or White Diamond
 
Realistically, the break cue wants a different shaft than a jump cue.
The break cue wants a conical taper heavy shaft that deflects little at high power.
The jump cue wants a thinner shaft that deflects out of the way of the rising cue ball.
 
MitchAlsup said:
Realistically, the break cue wants a different shaft than a jump cue.
The break cue wants a conical taper heavy shaft that deflects little at high power.
The jump cue wants a thinner shaft that deflects out of the way of the rising cue ball.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8zXzUVnEtQ

The shaft of the jump cue in no way deflects out of the way of the cueball. In fact, there is evidence that shafts which deflect less are better for jump cues--many stories about people who can't jump as well with LD shafts.

The long and short of it is that one should find the heaviest cue he can accelerate to his full speed.

Personally, break cues are only useful for people who want a much harder tip on their breaker. I don't have a great break and I use my player. I get fine action. My tip lasts without getting misshapen.

Spend more time learning how to break before spending money 'fixing' your break with hardware.
 
ElCorazonFrio said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8zXzUVnEtQ

The shaft of the jump cue in no way deflects out of the way of the cueball. In fact, there is evidence that shafts which deflect less are better for jump cues--many stories about people who can't jump as well with LD shafts.

The long and short of it is that one should find the heaviest cue he can accelerate to his full speed.

Personally, break cues are only useful for people who want a much harder tip on their breaker. I don't have a great break and I use my player. I get fine action. My tip lasts without getting misshapen.

Spend more time learning how to break before spending money 'fixing' your break with hardware.
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Correct...you want minimal *shaft* deflection and maximum cue ball deflection on a jump cue. This is the reasoning behind heavy brass ferrules, etc. This is also why a jump/break cue is NOT a good idea, because the things that make each work best are opposed.

I don't think the OP said anything about his break technique though. It really goes without saying that good break technique is worth more than any break cue. Good technique will make any cue work at least adequately.

In my opinion the best break cues out there are the BK3 and the OB Rift. I think the Lucasi Big Buella 2 is pretty nice. The balance is good and I like the relatively small diameter shaft with a long taper. It feels good to break with.

Hope this helps,

KMRUNOUT
 
KMRUNOUT said:
Correct...you want minimal *shaft* deflection and maximum cue ball deflection on a jump cue. This is the reasoning behind heavy brass ferrules, etc. This is also why a jump/break cue is NOT a good idea, because the things that make each work best are opposed.

I don't think the OP said anything about his break technique though. It really goes without saying that good break technique is worth more than any break cue. Good technique will make any cue work at least adequately.

In my opinion the best break cues out there are the BK3 and the OB Rift. I think the Lucasi Big Buella 2 is pretty nice. The balance is good and I like the relatively small diameter shaft with a long taper. It feels good to break with.

Hope this helps,

KMRUNOUT
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My point is that I don't see any benefit over my player as a break cue, thus my recommendation is to either buy a cheap one or don't buy one at all.
 
check out billiardwarehouse there BW brand break jump cue comes with 2 shafts.
One for break, and one for jump. $129.
 
Thanks guys, I see there is much to consider. I guess I really don't need a jump cue anyway. I'm not good at it but have barly practiced and at the moment I have a lucasi air hog. I guess I should just go the route of a cheap one. Only thing is I can't decide if I like them light or heavy.
 
ElCorazonFrio said:
My point is that I don't see any benefit over my player as a break cue, thus my recommendation is to either buy a cheap one or don't buy one at all.
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Well you specifically said break cues are good for people that want a much harder tip than their player. I think this might be a lot of people. You could expand that to say that they are good for people that don't want to beat the heck out of their player, and particularly their play tip.

I think some specialized break cues have noticeable and considerable differences over a player. The BK3 for example has many features that make it ideal for breaking. Specialized balance, tip, shaft, LD properties, ferrule material, forearm finish (yeah, a nice matte finish is great for those with a big follow through), are all some of the benefits of a dedicated break cue.

I think with any product you buy, typically there are adequate versions at a reasonable price point, and nicer versions at usually a higher price point. Get the one you like, that feels right to you, and that fits your budget. To me, the BK2 that I had used for many years was one of the best break cues I've ever had. While I won it for being player of the year on a local tour, I would still think that if I spent $400 for it, it was absolutely worth it. I won far more than that in tourneys over the life of the cue, and I had a great break that I could consistently feel confident in. It is an individual thing to place a value on that kind of stuff.

KMRUNOUT
 
The best break cues tend to be dedicated break cues, and the same is true for jump cues. I think it would be hard to do much better than the Jacoby jump cue. Also, I think it would be hard to do much better than the BK3 or OB break cues.

KMRUNOUT
 
KMRUNOUT said:
The best break cues tend to be dedicated break cues, and the same is true for jump cues. KMRUNOUT
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I used to think this way also. Then I procured a Gullyassy Anvil break jump. It performed so remarkably on both fronts that while they are no longer an in production line I custom ordered another from Mike to have a spare.

Really great break and jump cue.
 
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