Longoni Black Fox

wildwilly

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Have any of you used this Two-star 3 cushion cue? I am purchasing my first 3 cushion cue and want to get a simple (cheap) butt, and then get an upgraded shaft. I was thinking the Pro 2+ shaft (Eiffel profile.) Also, is the butt weight just personal preference, or will it matter a lot? My pool cue is 19 oz, so I thought I should stick with 19oz for the Longoni as well.

If you have any other brands I should check out, post up some links. Helmstetters and Dieckman are a bit out of my price range :)

I was about to order the Black Fox from www.tipsproshop.ca the other night, but their shipping and surcharges are outrageous.

Thanks for the help.
 
wildwilly said:
Have any of you used this Two-star 3 cushion cue? I am purchasing my first 3 cushion cue and want to get a simple (cheap) butt, and then get an upgraded shaft. I was thinking the Pro 2+ shaft (Eiffel profile.) Also, is the butt weight just personal preference, or will it matter a lot? My pool cue is 19 oz, so I thought I should stick with 19oz for the Longoni as well.

If you have any other brands I should check out, post up some links. Helmstetters and Dieckman are a bit out of my price range :)

I was about to order the Black Fox from www.tipsproshop.ca the other night, but their shipping and surcharges are outrageous.

Thanks for the help.

Willy,

I don't have much experience with the Longoni's in this price range but I think the wood joint will give you some nice shaft options. With regard to the weight, most people use a lighter cue and a smaller diameter shaft. I play pool with a 19 1/2 oz. cue but play 3-cushion with a cue less than 18 oz. Also, if you chose fo follow the conventional, I would suggest no wrap and using a rubber wrap sleeve sold on line at a number of outlets.

Good luck,

Joe
 
wildwilly said:
Have any of you used this Two-star 3 cushion cue? I am purchasing my first 3 cushion cue and want to get a simple (cheap) butt, and then get an upgraded shaft. I was thinking the Pro 2+ shaft (Eiffel profile.) Also, is the butt weight just personal preference, or will it matter a lot? My pool cue is 19 oz, so I thought I should stick with 19oz for the Longoni as well.

If you have any other brands I should check out, post up some links. Helmstetters and Dieckman are a bit out of my price range :)

I was about to order the Black Fox from www.tipsproshop.ca the other night, but their shipping and surcharges are outrageous.

Thanks for the help.

Willy,

You also might wanna peek at this thread,,,,

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=93288
 
wildwilly said:
Have any of you used this Two-star 3 cushion cue? I am purchasing my first 3 cushion cue and want to get a simple (cheap) butt, and then get an upgraded shaft. I was thinking the Pro 2+ shaft (Eiffel profile.) Also, is the butt weight just personal preference, or will it matter a lot? My pool cue is 19 oz, so I thought I should stick with 19oz for the Longoni as well.

If you have any other brands I should check out, post up some links. Helmstetters and Dieckman are a bit out of my price range :)

I was about to order the Black Fox from www.tipsproshop.ca the other night, but their shipping and surcharges are outrageous.

Thanks for the help.

I owned a Longoni Black Fox (sold it), right now playing with a Longoni P8 with a Longoni Pro 2+. Perhaps I can give you some advices :D .

First of all, from the Longoni perspective, only cues started at 3 stars are suited for 3 cushions. But even 3, 4 or 5 stars are not good cues to play play 3 cushion. For the pro, only the 5 star custom are the best to play 3 cushions. But I say it agian, this is only the Longoni perspective.

To me, I don't feel much differences between the Black Fox and the P8. They feel the same, and play the same. I consider the P8 as a good cue to play 3 cushion. So the Black Fox is also suites to play 3 cushion. As I told you, I have owned one. It is value for money. Great balance for less money.

The Pro2+ is a great shaft, that's for sure. It's a heavy shaft, heavier than the Pro2, it also got more deflection, but it play (feels) great. They sell it with an eiffel profile. It's perhaps a tiny bit more like an eiffel profile, but to me, it's still conical. I don't even think you will notice any eiffel profile on it. I've put a normal libre shaft next to my Pro2+ but didn't notice any difference on the tapper. Would I recommend it above a normal shaft? Yes I do! The extra length of 1,5 inch will give your more power. Also the more forward balanced (heavy shaft) will give you the extra power.

For the cue weight, you should get at least 18oz and higher. An heavier cue will give you more power (without accelarating too much). You can stick to a 19oz, but beware of 2 things. First, carom cues are butt heavy, poolcues are forearm heavy. So a 19oz carom will feel more heavier than a 19oz poolcue. The second, a Pro2+ will ad around 0,3oz extra weight on your cue, and balanced the cue a little more forward. I play with a 18.3oz cue. It feels light when you are holding the cue, but is quite heavy when you are playing with it. The original weight of my cue is 18oz. Because of the Pro2+ it makes it 18.3oz.

If you have any other questions, just ask.
 
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Thanks for all the replies. Prob gonna order the black fox when I find a good place to get it from.
 
Rubber sleeve

Bear in mind that a rubber sleeve, which most carom players use, adds about an ounce to the overall weight of the cue.
 
I have carom cues for sale
i have the following for sale

1 adam wood screw green flame design for $125
1 adam double joint two tone carom cue for $160
1 adam double joint 4 point carom cue for $200
1 buffalo by adam wood screw red flame design for $125
4 buffalo by adam wood screw two tone cues for $150 (grey, brown, red, or green)

all of these come with one 12mm shaft and are new.
any of these will make a great starter billiard cue.

let me know
Thanks
Cesar;)
 
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