Looking for someone building an extra long butt

[deraltefritz]

The forums were down this morning, and now the thread seems to have been lost, so I'll post it again:
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Dear cuemakers,

I would like to have a 40" (yes, fourty) butt so that I can grip my cue near or at what I learned to be called the center of percussion (see qbuilder's excellent post for a description of what that is: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5828549&postcount=6)

Ideally from a nice looking full-splice blank, such as this one:

extended by a 10" cylindrical butt piece made from the same wood as the forearm.

Additional specs:
- UniLoc Radial pin, preferrably light weight (e.g. aluminium)
- If you insist, a thin and small black collar. Preferably no collar at all

I am aware of and willing to handle the weight that comes with the extra length.

If anyone out there is able and willing to make such a long butt, please reply so that we can get in touch.

Thank you!

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For those itching to reply with "58 is just fine unless you're a giant!" (and I should have anticipated that as there promptly was a reply like that):

No, I do not need an extra long cue because I'm a giant.

My stance is fine too.

I am aware that the butt will not fit in standard cases

I am aware that the cue will be on the heavy front.

I can play just fine with a 58" cue. I'm 6 feet tall, but with slightly longer arms and wide shoulders. For a textbook stance , I have to grip a 58" cue very much at the end. My stance looks similar to these:

I grip the cue almost at the bumper like the guys on the top-left / bottom-right picture. I have no technical problems shooting pool with 58".

The reason why I would like a longer cue is because I want more cue behind my grip hand. And the reason for this is that vibrations initiated from the cue tip are greatly enhanced somewhere around the front part of the wrap section. About 3/4 from the tip on all the cues I've tested (house cues, one piece and 3/4 jointed snooker cues, pool cues). Grip the cue at the very end, and almost no vibrations can be felt in the grip hand.

Try it for yourself: grab the cue at different locations on the butt and tap the tip onto the rubber of the rail. If you find that sweet spot, the tip vibrates much longer and you'll get great feedback in your grip hand.
That is where I want to grip my cue. And unless I bend my bridge arm by 90 degrees and have the bridge hand close to my chin, (or manage to shrink), the cue has to be much longer for my height and arm lengths.

I have a cheap 62" house cue, and still that sweet spot is in front of where I grab the cue. So 69" should be plenty, and I can always reduce the length afterwards if the sweet spot were to be behind my grip hand.

 

[qbilder]

You'd be best off with a rear extension. Steve Dunkel has an outstanding hardware set-up, and sells the extensions as well. It would be MUCH easier than such a long butt, and allow the cue to remain 58". Win-win. It's a cue that isn't weird and you get the length you need.

 

[deraltefritz]

You'd be best off with a rear extension. Steve Dunkel has an outstanding hardware set-up, and sells the extensions as well. It would be MUCH easier than such a long butt, and allow the cue to remain 58". Win-win. It's a cue that isn't weird and you get the length you need.

I know I can always go down the cue + extension road. I have such a setup in fact, and it does move the sweet spot further down. But the hit is not nearly as pleasant...

I really like the idea of a solid oversized butt that does not have the butt cap and bumper etc. trapped in betweeen. But I guess the extension could hold the bumper etc., and a solid wood to wood connection between butt and extension.

Does anything speak against that?

Is Steve Dunkel a member on here?








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[Kim Bye]

The pictures you link to is of snooker players, their cues are between 57" - 60", but the key here is that a snookertable is higher, so the stance is quite different. Most snookercues are also 1 piece or 3/4 designs, so the butt is very short and snooker cues have the flat spot, wich pool cues don`t.

 

[deraltefritz]

The pictures you link to is of snooker players, their cues are between 57" - 60", but the key here is that a snookertable is higher, so the stance is quite different. Most snookercues are also 1 piece or 3/4 designs, so the butt is very short and snooker cues have the flat spot, wich pool cues don`t.

I am well aware of all that, thank you. Nevertheless that's how I look like when shooting pool on pool tables. I don't see how any of this relates to my request or the reasoning behind it.

 

[captainjko]

Extension

I know I can always go down the cue + extension road. I have such a setup in fact, and it does move the sweet spot further down. But the hit is not nearly as pleasant...

I really like the idea of a solid oversized butt that does not have the butt cap and bumper etc. trapped in betweeen. But I guess the extension could hold the bumper etc., and a solid wood to wood connection between butt and extension.

Does anything speak against that?

Is Steve Dunkel a member on here?

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I made an extension for my cue. It stays on when ever I am playing. Total length together is 63-1/2"