Incorrect...never use the so called "burnisher" on this tool on ANY layered tip. It will guarantee delamination problems with any tip. Simply take it back to your cueman and have it done correctly.Matt_24 said:
Looking to replace Moori Medium Tip
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Varney Cues said:Incorrect...never use the so called "burnisher" on this tool on ANY layered tip. It will guarantee delamination problems with any tip. Simply take it back to your cueman and have it done correctly.
I don't know if you can really reply with an all-encompassing "Incorrect". From my personal experience I used one on my Moori and it worked great. Never had a problem.....and is especially nice when you play a lot and just don't have the time to run to your cue repairman as much as you would like.
Now...would I rather have a mushroomed tip taken to my cue guy for a nice shave and shape up...of course. But when you don't always have a lot of extra time, I think that the aforementioned tip tool is your "second" best option.
So..I agree with you...but I also disagree. Isn't that fun?
That tool should NEVER be used on ANY layered tip. It stresses the layers and I've seen many, many, who have had their tip seperate while using it. Same with the "tuning fork" burnisher on the Ultimate Tip Tool. It can be used with a Lepro or Triangle with decent results...but then too...I've seen them pop the tip clean off the ferrule. If you have a quality tip & its installed correctly, then you should have no need for such frequent care.Matt_24 said:
I often moisten the sides of my tip & rub with leather or cardboard...just because I like my tip sides shiny & new looking.
I play multiple hours every day...I've yet to have to touch my Sniper in any way. If you are needing to groom your tip as much as you say...I'd look as to the reason why...its not the hours of use.
KV
another sniper
I too switched to a sniper from a moori just a couple weeks ago. honestly cant feel a difference but have noticed that after about 20 hours of play it hasn't mushroomed one bit. I can't say that for the moori's. I always had to do an initial trim after the first few outings.
I'm having Manwon put a talisman pro medium on an ivory ferrule on a different cue as we speak and am curious how that will do as its my first talisman. I've got high hopes.
I too switched to a sniper from a moori just a couple weeks ago. honestly cant feel a difference but have noticed that after about 20 hours of play it hasn't mushroomed one bit. I can't say that for the moori's. I always had to do an initial trim after the first few outings.
I'm having Manwon put a talisman pro medium on an ivory ferrule on a different cue as we speak and am curious how that will do as its my first talisman. I've got high hopes.
I think Seybert's generally has a better price ($13.00 per for 1) than Mueller's and it is a lot easier to find things on their website. Or he can go directly to Tiger's website.Black-Balled said:
I tried them years ago and the first one delamed, but I liked them enough to try another. It delamed again and on the advice of counsel (a cuemaker) I stopped using them.
Varney Cues said:That tool should NEVER be used on ANY layered tip. It stresses the layers and I've seen many, many, who have had their tip seperate while using it. Same with the "tuning fork" burnisher on the Ultimate Tip Tool. It can be used with a Lepro or Triangle with decent results...but then too...I've seen them pop the tip clean off the ferrule. If you have a quality tip & its installed correctly, then you should have no need for such frequent care.
I often moisten the sides of my tip & rub with leather or cardboard...just because I like my tip sides shiny & new looking.
I play multiple hours every day...I've yet to have to touch my Sniper in any way. If you are needing to groom your tip as much as you say...I'd look as to the reason why...its not the hours of use.
KV
Yeah....the moori came installed on the Predator I had....and I was a bit disappointed that it started mushrooming after the first few hours of initial use. I took it to my cue guy, he shaped it up, and I hoped for the best. Again..it started mushrooming..so I used the shaper/burnisher tool and that worked pretty well. Personally, it never caused any delamination or anything like that. You see more tips than I, so I would tell people to heed your advice..I'm just relaying from my personal experience there was no problem.
I've been experimenting with tips myself lately. One I've found I like is a Stratos available on Mueller's (www.poolndarts.com). It's medium seems to run a little harder than a moori medium.
Or he could go here.....
Earlier in this thread I posted a link for $11 Snipers. Here it is again: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-GENUINE-TIGER...2295607QQihZ018QQcategoryZ75188QQcmdZViewItemcatscradle said:
Here is the best way I can describe it. I use Moori's period full stop. If I could find a Tip that was in my opinion 10% better I would pay twice what I currently pay for a Moori. Having said that a few years ago I tried a couple of Snipers. My observations where as follows:
1. The Sniper starts out feeling a tad bit softer (out of the box).
2. After about 3 hours of play (I'm not a big hitter) it Stiffens up nicely.
3. Over time the Snipers get harder...but play great.
4. The Sniper should only be put on by professionals. Period full stop.
5. A Moori can be put on by a monkey.
6. Snipers occasionally delam. Even months after installation
My thinking is that a tip (Moori) that may mushroom is infinitely better than a tip that won't (Sniper) but may fail you.
Those who have ever owned a Mercedes will tell you that a Lexus will out perform MB in every catergory...until you slam the door shut and hear the difference.
Nick
1. The Sniper starts out feeling a tad bit softer (out of the box).
2. After about 3 hours of play (I'm not a big hitter) it Stiffens up nicely.
3. Over time the Snipers get harder...but play great.
4. The Sniper should only be put on by professionals. Period full stop.
5. A Moori can be put on by a monkey.
6. Snipers occasionally delam. Even months after installation
My thinking is that a tip (Moori) that may mushroom is infinitely better than a tip that won't (Sniper) but may fail you.
Those who have ever owned a Mercedes will tell you that a Lexus will out perform MB in every catergory...until you slam the door shut and hear the difference.
Nick