Losing Your Match on a "Bye"

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TheBook

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Do you think it is possible to be knocked out of a tournament on a bye? Think about it for a few seconds. In fact it may be something that is common and happened to your team.

Our team qualified for the playoffs in both the fall and winter sessions so we went into the city playoffs with 2 qualifiers or entries. Some teams had 3 because they were also in the summer sessions.

In the first round our team (entries/qualifiers) were "drawn" to play each other so we got a 'Bye". The problem is our one entry advanced and the other was now in the loser bracket. Our team then won the next round in the winner side and loser side. Our winning side then lost the next round so we were put into the loser bracket against our other entry for a "bye" that automatically eliminated that entry. After that we got knocked out on our last leg.

The team that sent us to the loser bracket had 3 entries and was by far the strongest team. Somehow they never "played" against themselves until the very end and ended up taking 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

I guess this is the fallacy of having different entires in one playoff at the end of the year.
 
I think it's a creative idea to be able to enter up to 3 times in the same tournament, and I plan to suggest it to some tournament directors here.
 
After having played in at least 10 APA cities and reffing 4 cities also APA here in Charlotte NC that could not happen here but we have a seperate cities every session. What does happen is if you are on two teams that have to play each other you have to make a choice, go with 1 of your teams or don't play for either team in this match. If you play with 1 team and the other team makes it to Vegas you do not even if your on the roster and what hurts sometimes is 4 or 5 players being common to both teams so decisions have to be made. They always put common player teams in the same bracket so it happens alot.--Leonard
 
Yes, it's very clearly spelled out in the APA team manual how players who play on two teams which qualify for higher level play must sit out completely when the teams meet. To prevent players from being on competing teams in regular session play, they are not allowed to be on more than one team in the same division.

To have any kind of a tournament that allows a team more than one entry is just ridiculous and the league operator needs a refresher course on how things work.
 
This hurts my head. Who came up with a way in which something like this can happen? Do they work for the IRS?

It's like going back in time to kill your grandfather, which makes you not exists, but then who killed your grandfather and if he's not dead, now you exist again to go back to kill him....


TheBook said:
Do you think it is possible to be knocked out of a tournament on a bye? Think about it for a few seconds. In fact it may be something that is common and happened to your team.

Our team qualified for the playoffs in both the fall and winter sessions so we went into the city playoffs with 2 qualifiers or entries. Some teams had 3 because they were also in the summer sessions.

In the first round our team (entries/qualifiers) were "drawn" to play each other so we got a 'Bye". The problem is our one entry advanced and the other was now in the loser bracket. Our team then won the next round in the winner side and loser side. Our winning side then lost the next round so we were put into the loser bracket against our other entry for a "bye" that automatically eliminated that entry. After that we got knocked out on our last leg.

The team that sent us to the loser bracket had 3 entries and was by far the strongest team. Somehow they never "played" against themselves until the very end and ended up taking 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

I guess this is the fallacy of having different entires in one playoff at the end of the year.
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thats absurd to structure your league to allow 3 entries for the same team in the same tournament. if teams are too common (4-5 of the same players), then put them in the same bracket. but to allow 3 entries for the same team into the same tournament is poppycock.
 
bye

poolcuemaster said:
After having played in at least 10 APA cities and reffing 4 cities also APA here in Charlotte NC that could not happen here but we have a seperate cities every session. What does happen is if you are on two teams that have to play each other you have to make a choice, go with 1 of your teams or don't play for either team in this match. If you play with 1 team and the other team makes it to Vegas you do not even if your on the roster and what hurts sometimes is 4 or 5 players being common to both teams so decisions have to be made. They always put common player teams in the same bracket so it happens alot.--Leonard
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this was not an APA league.
 
It was not a APA league but it does happen in our APA area. There is a fall, winter and summer session plus different leagues and divisions. Teams qualify for playoffs in each session. After each session there is a playoff for a chance for the team to go to Vegas. The winner from each session then meets and play off against all the other winners from the other divisions and leagues. Therefore some have 2 or 3 entries in the finals. If your team wins the summer, winter and fall you have 2 or 3 entries.
 
hang-the-9 said:
This hurts my head. Who came up with a way in which something like this can happen? Do they work for the IRS?

It's like going back in time to kill your grandfather, which makes you not exists, but then who killed your grandfather and if he's not dead, now you exist again to go back to kill him....
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I agree... It hurts my head also. I think the problem lies in why you would want to kill your grandfather in the first place. Did he develope this goofy league?:banghead:
 
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