Low deflection??

FunChamp

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I have a 13mm Joss shaft that weighs 3.6 ounces. I bought the Joss HP shaft and it weighs 3.8 ounces. Ive done deflection test comparing both and set up many shots. I can't tell a damn bit of difference. Any ideas why?
 

BC21

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I have a 13mm Joss shaft that weighs 3.6 ounces. I bought the Joss HP shaft and it weighs 3.8 ounces. Ive done deflection test comparing both and set up many shots. I can't tell a damn bit of difference. Any ideas why?
Only the first few inches of the shaft matter when it comes to deflection differences (from the tip back). So these two shafts must be pretty equal in those first few inches.
 
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TeddyKGB

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That's a bit of a let down, but IMHO all cues have deflection...at the end of the day, dont get too sucked into the techno science babble...find a cue you like for every reason, looks, feel, hit, weight, wrap...everything....then put in the time on the table and learn the deflection characteristics of your cue and never think about it again.
 

hang-the-9

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I have a 13mm Joss shaft that weighs 3.6 ounces. I bought the Joss HP shaft and it weighs 3.8 ounces. Ive done deflection test comparing both and set up many shots. I can't tell a damn bit of difference. Any ideas why?

I don't think that Joss HP shaft is designed as a low deflection one. They state designed " to eliminate any unintentional ball spin." Not sure how that can happen since that would be a product of the stroke not the shaft.
 

Patrick Johnson

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I don't think that Joss HP shaft is designed as a low deflection one. They state designed " to eliminate any unintentional ball spin."
They also make this contradictory claim…

“When a shaft is designed to be only a low-deflection shaft, you lose some of the ability to spin your cue ball.”

I don’t think the “problem” or their “cure” is true.

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straightline

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I have a 13mm Joss shaft that weighs 3.6 ounces. I bought the Joss HP shaft and it weighs 3.8 ounces. Ive done deflection test comparing both and set up many shots. I can't tell a damn bit of difference. Any ideas why?
How are you testing? You should be able to tell just shooting regular shots.You may be thicker and thinner without missing the pockets. If everything appears normal, hit everything harder.
 

FunChamp

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How are you testing? You should be able to tell just shooting regular shots.You may be thicker and thinner without missing the pockets. If everything appears normal, hit everything harder.
Shot cue ball from foot spot to head rail. Also into the pockets. I also set up shots using inside English. If there is a difference it is negligible. As far as I can tell.
 

straightline

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Shot cue ball from foot spot to head rail. Also into the pockets. I also set up shots using inside English. If there is a difference it is negligible. As far as I can tell.
Shooting shots I'd think would have the clearest results. Try shooting Strickland type long shots - ie with enough speed and spin to run the ball around the table.
 

TeddyKGB

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Just shooting down the table to the end rail is very tricky to notice to deflection unless you have a measuring tape laid out and a camera on the rail ala Dr Dave's research. Youre talking about maybe 1/16 of an inch difference between shafts which is impossible to tell with the naked eye but its enough to make or miss a ball.

The best way to test deflection differences without doing the camera method is take your first shaft and spend 20 minutes shooting long 3/4 table shots diagonally into the corner with a full tip of left or right side spin. Keep doing this until you're really dialed in and youre making 90% of the shots. Then switch shafts and do the same thing, your brain will try the same aim point and you'll either keep pocketing shots or miss everything in the same manner, too thin or too thick.

It will give you a great comparison of shafts and a great feeling out process for which shaft is more natural for your game.

Its fun
 
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