made this shot, but not sure how

[av84fun]

I don't think I've ever seen the term "rail crush" used in print. Shamos, in his illustrated dictionary, lists 15 terms that begin with "rail" but none ends in "crush." What does it mean?

While the shot was probably made with transferred spin on the object ball, sometimes a player gets lucky and makes the ball off the point of the pocket. At a room where I used to play, the rails were sort of rounded by the corner pockets, and the rounding would help you make the shot. Perhaps the OP could tell us whether the object ball hit the flat part of the rail or partly hit the pocket corner.

I presume he is referring to rail compression due to impact forces which, as you know, alters the rebound angle.

Personally, I doubt such compression would cause the ob to reverse direction. I think that transferred spin would be the main reason.

And to respond to another poster here...I did not hit the rail first and made the shot on the first attempt.

Regards,
Jim

 

[catscradle]

I presume he is referring to rail compression due to impact forces which, as you know, alters the rebound angle.

Personally, I doubt such compression would cause the ob to reverse direction. I think that transferred spin would be the main reason.

And to respond to another poster here...I did not hit the rail first and made the shot on the first attempt.

Regards,
Jim

BTW, was that what you intended or were you trying to shoot into the other corner.

 

[AZE]

No english, slightly low, and cut the ball, I thought this was all common knowledge.... please don't tell me I have an edge on anyone, it'll go to my head.

 

[LILJOHN30]

This is a bank pool players shot and no english is needed if you know how to shoot the shot.The shot is in freddy's new dvds and his books.

 

[LILJOHN30]

I presume he is referring to rail compression due to impact forces which, as you know, alters the rebound angle.

Personally, I doubt such compression would cause the ob to reverse direction. I think that transferred spin would be the main reason.

And to respond to another poster here...I did not hit the rail first and made the shot on the first attempt.

Regards,
Jim

There's another secret to this shot ...and the reason english isn't used.

 

[fan-tum]

You show banking a ball frozen to the middle of the short rail. In my experience, this shot is more or less impossible without either hitting the point of the corner pocket or having chalk on the balls. Is the diagram accurate?

The one ball is frozen. I tried to hit the ob slightly before the rail.

 

[trendkill]

In that diagram, it looks to me like the ball was frozen to the rail...which is why I say rail first hit. If it is supposed to be off the rail a bit, then I agree with the ball first hit. If I recall, he doesn't state whether the ball was frozen or not...

 

[ShootingArts]

Thanks!

A surprising result is that you don't want to use super side spin on the cue ball for this because at high RPMs, the ball-ball friction goes down and you end up with less net spin on the object ball.

Thanks Bob, sent you some rep.

The long rail "reverse angle bank shot" is something I used to make a fairly high percentage of the time. It is a much lower percentage shot on some tables I play on and I have been trying to add extra cue ball spin to get it to work. Never considered that the higher speed might result in less transfer of the spin.

Hu