Majid Ali: Snooker Players Suicide

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Renowned Pakistani snooker player Majid Ali commits suicide: Police | More sports News - Times of India

More sports News: Pakistan's renowned national snooker player Majid Ali, who was reportedly suffering from acute depression, committed suicide in Pakistan's Punjab prov
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The actions surrounding the death are gruesome.

Suicide is a mental disease in today's world. However not many families are familiar with how to fight suicide or people at risk for suicide.
 
"Snooker Player Majid Ali died on Sunday by suicide. Ali went to a furniture shop of his father and switched on an electric saw machine installed there and put his neck on an iron blade and died instantly,"

Was battling depression since his teens.

Had my best friend offed himself with a Kbar knife at about 30 years of age. He'd moved 3 hours away and was married. My greatest wish was he'd have called me.

The pain can be so deep....that it seems it's the only move.
 
we can only hope hes in a better place now.

if you feel like you need help, get help.
 
justnum said:
Suicide is a mental disease in today's world. However not many families are familiar with how to fight suicide or people at risk for suicide.
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Nobody who is mentally ill has the resources to pay for the medical treatments necessary to be restored.
 
Mental health is no joke. It's a disease that does not care about how successful you are or how much money is in your bank account. Look at Chris Cornell, Robin Williams and Anthony Bourdain..
 
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justnum said:
Majid Ali

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Renowned Pakistani snooker player Majid Ali commits suicide: Police | More sports News - Times of India

More sports News: Pakistan's renowned national snooker player Majid Ali, who was reportedly suffering from acute depression, committed suicide in Pakistan's Punjab prov
timesofindia.indiatimes.com timesofindia.indiatimes.com

The actions surrounding the death are gruesome.

Suicide is a mental disease in today's world. However not many families are familiar with how to fight suicide or people at risk for suicide.
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I’ve always had trouble with the term ‘mental disease’….like it’s something that can be treated by a professional.
….people can help…but not much…the change of mind has to come from within.

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance is not a bad book to start.
 
muskyed said:
Not true, very rich people commit suicide.
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Find me a very rich person, that needs to be in a sanitarium, and a sanitarium fit for his living style--and get back to me about whether they would willingly build such a place for themselves.
muskyed said:
It's not an economic sickness.
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Correct--I did not imply it was--but if you think normal health care is expensive consider that mental health care is at least 4× that.
muskyed said:
Just type in Famous Actors who have commited suicide.
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The converse is:: how many child actors and actresses went on to lead "normal lives".

My count is 2--can you guess who ?
 
MitchAlsup said:
Find me a very rich person, that needs to be in a sanitarium, and a sanitarium fit for his living style--and get back to me about whether they would willingly build such a place for themselves.

Correct--I did not imply it was--but if you think normal health care is expensive consider that mental health care is at least 4× that.

The converse is:: how many child actors and actresses went on to lead "normal lives".

My count is 2--can you guess who ?
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The 2 that come to mind is Shirley Temple that pursued a political career and Ashley Olsen who went on to fashion designing.
 
CuseFan559 said:
The 2 that come to mind is Shirley Temple that pursued a political career and Ashley Olsen who went on to fashion designing.
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I would add Ron Howard. Shirley seemed to me to "have problems".

But you have to admit that it is a small percentage group..........
 
Professionally suicide prevention and seeking counseling are the main recommendations organizations speak on.

When someone is experiencing a crisis or depression a feeling of helplessness or a fear of consequences can hypnotize a person into fallacies.
 
pt109 said:
I’ve always had trouble with the term ‘mental disease’….like it’s something that can be treated by a professional.
….people can help…but not much…the change of mind has to come from within.

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance is not a bad book to start.
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Not to derail the thread here, but the only thing that cured me from a deep decade long depression was psychedelics. This was 20 years ago and I've not fell into depression since. I was straight laced and didn't smoke or even drink alcohol. I don't know what drew me to try them but I'm glad I did.

I think the psychedelics did a few things... got me to examine things more deeply, feel connected to the world as a whole, reset the cyclical loop that depression causes (it's kind of like a bugged out computer program caught in a loop), and allowed me to look at the same old things through the eyes of a child. There was magic and love in the world again. It got me outside of my own damn head. My own damn head was trying to kill me and psychedelics let me see it from an outside perspective.
 
boogieman said:
Not to derail the thread here, but the only thing that cured me from a deep decade long depression was psychedelics. This was 20 years ago and I've not fell into depression since. I was straight laced and didn't smoke or even drink alcohol. I don't know what drew me to try them but I'm glad I did.

I think the psychedelics did a few things... got me to examine things more deeply, feel connected to the world as a whole, reset the cyclical loop that depression causes (it's kind of like a bugged out computer program caught in a loop), and allowed me to look at the same old things through the eyes of a child. There was magic and love in the world again. It got me outside of my own damn head. My own damn head was trying to kill me and psychedelics let me see it from an outside perspective.
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i think about this sometimes but i did so many drugs at a very young age and they dont agree with me any more. im curious were you microdosing or did you just fully blast off to reset your noodle?
 
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The most common testimony from parents after a suicide is they had no idea. There were no signs of trouble.

The more popular problem is people see the signs and are helpless as they watch individuals suffer.
 
justnum said:
The most common testimony from parents after a suicide is they had no idea. There were no signs of trouble.

The more popular problem is people see the signs and are helpless as they watch individuals suffer.
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How can one be the most common and yet the other is more popular?
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...but you're not saying anything.
 
Black-Balled said:
How can one be the most common and yet the other is more popular?
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...but you're not saying anything.
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Its like the mean, median and mode. Sometimes they agree, sometimes there is an order.
What remains true is the population mean is unknown.

For statistics applied to sociology, causes for suicide vary widely. The most useful pattern to study is age group. More suicides happen on the younger side of the distribution.

Simply, statistics is just regression up to the current moment. A true population mean would account for the past, present and future.
 
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