MARKET VALUE??? TAD

jdsons

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Like new Tad delivered in August 1991. Only two hours of play. Came from a collection.
 

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8k at least or more. My friend has one that's pretty elaborate on the butt. He said his was valued at 5k. If its hardly played than worth more and its a complete set. He knew Tad and met him at his shop and the other time was at a show in Vegas. He recalls a pool table in the corner of the shop. Like pushed up to the corner.

To better get an estimate you can call his son. His son will give you an idea.

I use to see these Tads and Ginas all the time in the 90's and usually from older guys. I've always wonder where they all went besides Japan.

It's a beauty.

 
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We can all guess but call the guy’s son.

All you have to ask is how much it costs to make this exact one today. Then go from there depending on condition.

I know someone at the pool hall said his cue is worth XYZ and I told him to call the cue maker and he refuses. Some people don’t want to hear the truth.

Asking the cue maker is better than asking us.

I think it’s a bit more valuable since it’s practically brand new. It will go to another collector willing to pay for it.

I think Tad is almost near to the point where nobody knows who he was.

We can use his HOF status.
 
We can all guess but call the guy’s son.

All you have to ask is how much it costs to make this exact one today. Then go from there depending on condition.

I know someone at the pool hall said his cue is worth XYZ and I told him to call the cue maker and he refuses. Some people don’t want to hear the truth.

Asking the cue maker is better than asking us.

I think it’s a bit more valuable since it’s practically brand new. It will go to another collector willing to pay for it.

I think Tad is almost near to the point where nobody knows who he was.

We can use his HOF status.
The cue maker price in most times does not reflect a used cue market value.
Could be more or cold be less.
Nobody knows TAD? that's a very sad day for collectors and general cue lovers.
I would guess that an original TAD in great condition will be worth more than a brand new made by his son or someone else that continues to use the name.
 
Like new Tad delivered in August 1991. Only two hours of play. Came from a collection.
A cue like this merits a documented professional appraisal. Everything else is spinning your wheels unless you submit it to open auction to determine the value, and that sometimes does not work out as well if the auction is poorly presented.

I recommend professional appraisal for insurance purposes as well on such a cue. It can't really be replaced, but at least it could be adequately covered for financial recovery if you put a rider on your homeowner's or renters insurance for valuables and collectables.
 
A cue like this merits a documented professional appraisal. Everything else is spinning your wheels unless you submit it to open auction to determine the value, and that sometimes does not work out as well if the auction is poorly presented.

I recommend professional appraisal for insurance purposes as well on such a cue. It can't really be replaced, but at least it could be adequately covered for financial recovery if you put a rider on your homeowner's or renters insurance for valuables and collectables.
GREAT POST. So many people underestimate or just don't know about this. I've known people with six figure gun collections and no insurance on them because they assume their homeowners insurance would cover it. Nope. It doesn't work that way. Good luck explaining to your adjuster that the M1 carbine with all matching factory parts that you bought privately at a gun show was worth $X,XXX+ and they need to cover it. This is also one of the reasons I cringe when people tell me they leave their pistol in their car or truck. That gun can be gone in ten seconds and you'll potentially have very little recourse. Side note: Never carry a gun you couldn't stand to lose.

The same goes for cues but probably even more so. Ninety nine percent of the people out there have no clue whatsoever about how expensive custom cues can be. And if you tried to tell your adjuster that you had a $10,000 pool cue reduced to ashes, odds are they're going to tell you you're out of luck. I'm sure there are exceptions. But if you have a collection or valuable cue, get it insured. And if you can't afford to get it insured, understand the risk the risk you're taking.
 
GREAT POST. So many people underestimate or just don't know about this. I've known people with six figure gun collections and no insurance on them because they assume their homeowners insurance would cover it. Nope. It doesn't work that way. Good luck explaining to your adjuster that the M1 carbine with all matching factory parts that you bought privately at a gun show was worth $X,XXX+ and they need to cover it. This is also one of the reasons I cringe when people tell me they leave their pistol in their car or truck. That gun can be gone in ten seconds and you'll potentially have very little recourse. Side note: Never carry a gun you couldn't stand to lose.

The same goes for cues but probably even more so. Ninety nine percent of the people out there have no clue whatsoever about how expensive custom cues can be. And if you tried to tell your adjuster that you had a $10,000 pool cue reduced to ashes, odds are they're going to tell you you're out of luck. I'm sure there are exceptions. But if you have a collection or valuable cue, get it insured. And if you can't afford to get it insured, understand the risk the risk you're taking.
They will give you a depreciated replacement value for a used pool cue, if that. So, pennies on the dollar for a good cue, and maybe nothing. It's just another household thing to them.
 
Tad’s are among my favorite cues ever. They run real close with the Szams. For all practical purposes it’s a tie. Different reasons for Tads and Szams. But if I weigh all my own personal reasons out. It’s a tie.

Aside from my personal opinions it’s clear from a biz stand point that Szams are smarter cues to buy & hold & sell. That fact doesn’t weigh into my “what I like best” thing.

I played with a Tad for years. I still have it and will never sell that cue.

Most of my Tads are early 90’s cues

Best
Fatboy 😃
 
We can all guess but call the guy’s son.

All you have to ask is how much it costs to make this exact one today. Then go from there depending on condition.

I know someone at the pool hall said his cue is worth XYZ and I told him to call the cue maker and he refuses. Some people don’t want to hear the truth.

Asking the cue maker is better than asking us.

I think it’s a bit more valuable since it’s practically brand new. It will go to another collector willing to pay for it.

I think Tad is almost near to the point where nobody knows who he was.

We can use his HOF status.
Fred is Tads son, super nice guy. Top shelf just like Tad was, among the best of the best in the pool world.
 
Thanks everyone.
The last time I went to Fred's shop, he said all his cues go to China. I thought it would be Japan, but I was wrong. Unfortunately, this cue would get a better price overseas.
I never thought about the appraisal and insurance idea. I never thought of myself as a collector. But, 7 plus expensive cues say otherwise.

Julian
 
As far as appraisals go I’d make sure you are going to someone that can actually give you an accurate appraisal. Where would you be able to get a truly accurate appraisal of a vintage pool cue? I feel I could trust a few people here to actually give an accurate appraisal but are they recognized for insurance purposes? I don’t know the answer to that question. I question even if some actual auction houses know the nuanced differences between a handful of well known cue makers in the 1960’s and 1970’s like Balabushka, Tad, Ernie Gutierrez and say Viking and Meucci. Many people on here AZ are relatively new to the pool world, even some that resell cues often and that why we so many questions of what cues are worth when they are not diamonds. I have a few cues that I believe are worth some money and I’d like to get them appraised for insurance purposes only because I don’t intend to sell them but I don’t even trust an auction houses opinion. Maybe someone could answer that question? Even when watching Antique Road Show many times there is a very large window of what experts think something might be worth and sometimes they talk in very general terms that makes me wonder.

Nice cue jdsons!
 
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The OP only asked for opinion of value. He never said it's a rare Stradivarius.
There are a few signs that show its era. Silver rings at the joint, and inlays in the window. I haven't seen any like it before. I think this cue sat in Tads shop for awhile, before finishing. I feel bad bothering Fred. I am not sure if he works alone.

Julian
 
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