Materials and labor charges.

[realkingcobra]

You should buy it at Lowes. Pay sales tax. Gas. Your time. And more then likely you'll spend more on other stuff "since you're there". BTW it's 9.87 at home depot last I looked.

Don't you just hate that...I go into Home Depot to buy a roller for my gluing the cloth down, and come out spending $200 or more for tools...LMAO Damn Home Depot anyway

Glen

 

[Dartman]

I think you'd be surprised as to how many places there are in this country that don't have a Lowe's or Home Depot around them with in driving distance I don't think Rick is in the business of competing with Lowe's as much as he's in the business of convince for the customer selling of supplies for his customers If people wouldn't mind, I didn't start this thread to pick on anyone, I started it to talk about the differences between the price labor and cloth when recovering pool tables for mechanics, and my feelings about separating the two charges
Glen

Yep.
And assuming the store has it in stock -
Round trip gas cost and time to drive to Lowes or HD.
Sales Tax
Time waiting in line.
Probably spend more on other stuff "since you're there".

vs.
UPS brings it to your door.
Convenience is a wonderful thing.

And to stay on topica - I vote for separating labor and parts on the bill (or quote).

 

[Dartman]

Don't you just hate that...I go into Home Depot to buy a roller for my gluing the cloth down, and come out spending $200 or more for tools...LMAO Damn Home Depot anyway
Glen

I went to Menards on Sunday to buy a 20' ladder and they were out.
Wound up spending $108.25 on other stuff since I was there.

 

[Dawgie]

I guess I'm going in the direction that if cloth keeps going up in price, and it will, it's leaving less and less room for technicians to charge for their labor, for the work they do. I'd much rather work a deal with whomever I buy my cloth from to kick back the difference between retail and wholesale for getting my business as an installer to pick up them few extra bucks, and protect my labor rates. If and when the price of cloth goes up so much, I can sit back and say...hey, I don't have anything to do with the price of cloth, I just install it and this is what I charge. I think one of the worst things that can happen is if you quote a customer one price of installing Simonis cloth on a table which includes labor and cloth, then the customer asks you...well, how much is the cloth...and you try and pass it off as say $300.00 for cloth and $200.00 for labor, when in fact the cloth cost you say $166.00. You were looking to make $334.00 in all reality when the job was done....but then the home owner says, well, OK....come and recover my table then for $200.00....BECAUSE....I have my own Simonis cloth!!!!!!!!!...You just got screwed!!! That's my whole point. I'm not shy about saying...Labor is $350.00...plus the cost of cloth...YOURS...OR....MINE!

Glen

Doing it this way opens the door to being able to ask the cloth distributors....what's my kick back if I install YOUR cloth....because so and so is offering me...such and such to install their cloth!!!!!!!!! after the install!!!

Maybe you would be happier if you set your labor at $XXX to recover a 9' table. Secondly you should be able to get cloth close to wholesale. Only offer the cloth in two colors, blue and green. Other colors to be additional costs. Now your labor is set. You should also have a set amount of markup on your cloth. In addition I wouldn 't guarrantee the cloth unless they bought it from me.

The fuel sur-charge is also a good idea.

Sorta like selling carpet. Labor is XXX for a 12X14 room. Now sir you must choose your carpet color and grade.