Maybe carbon fiber shafts arent so expensive.

It's way easier to focus/buy/work on equipment than it is to work on your game.

Well the only way to improve at any sport in practicing what you do poor. Want to kick Pool Balls better is practice. O am guilty of buying DVD to improve, but not watching more then once.

Dr. Dave U-Tube are short, to the point, and he make everything easy to understand. Then all you need do is practice, his techniques until you master them.

Military teaches most subject well, you repeat until you go nuts, but they know you are build mussel memory.
 
You think, or now what 100% of Forum Members think or know?

If you do you full of s💩.

CF is latest gimmick, use to be Predator or OB shafts.

Corporation advertise stuff to make money some actually works.
Learn to fkng spell first. You might be the only one who doesn't know. Keep thinking CF is a gimmick as wood shafts slowly disappear.
 
Pool playing equipment isn't expensive at all. 500 dollars for a shaft, 1000 dollars for a cue, isn't really so much divided over a decade of playing. Keep in mind you can get a cue for under 100 dollars and it will not hold you back very much at all. Migth be all you need for your pool playing life. I have a 50 dollar cue, that while not great, probably could play a lot better than I'm capable of. As far as carbon fibre shafts are concerned, I do not like them. I think they are overly stiff and give very bad feedback to the hand. I could probably get used to it, and play well with it, but I think a good wooden shaft is better suited to me. My friend had a fiberglass Cuetec that a lot of people made fun of. They didn't laugh when he ran out and made sick power shots with it... A lot of people say it, but very few believe it, this game is not about the cue. You have a good tip, and a cue that is not damaged or extremely warped or have some horrible flaw in it's construction and you have all you need to play world class pool. A good housecue can really be all you need.

The biggest revolution in my game was when I discovered that I play better with non-layered tips. I get less unintentional spin and more predictable cue ball action. I can jump and masse all day and not worry about damaging my tip. I also hate spending 25 dollars on a tip. Give me a le-pro, for a fraction of the cost, I compress it and have all the tip I need.
 
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I thought $500 was 'insane' for a shaft when Revo dropped a few years ago. Tried most all LD's over the years only one I kept was 314/2 that I got with a cue deal. I played with some friends CF shafts last few years and was amused but not sold. Figured when CF dropped to $250 maybe snag one and give it a go.

I checked most brand names CF shafts. I wanted a 12.4 Revo and kept my eyes open and set $350 all in on one. One came available about 3 months ago and I snagged it. Have about 50 racks on it and the jury is still out. I am still getting used to the look at address. I do like the fact that it stays super 'slick' and feels great in hand. Maintenance is not and not an issue with my maple shafts. Shaft gets a ding and its fixed when I get home.

The Revo I purchased came with a ZAN Hybrid Max and I left it on. I was used to playing with Triangles for sometime but this ZAN felt firm and a nice tip with life so leaving it on...for now. For me I think the Revo helps me on long shots ( 9' which I prefer playing on ) but not getting the feel of maple on shorter shots or on Bar Boxes. I like the overall feedback better with maple.

I don't have that many racks on it yet and am going to give it some more time before I pass it on or bag it for a later date. If you enjoy your old equipment play it, or bang your gear around and or like to mix it up once in awhile try some CF out. Many are playing them and say they are improving their game and love the durability.


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I think we have all played with cues that we shot well with and those we didn't. So maybe sometimes it is the arrow. I'm shooting really well and moving the cue ball around well with the CF. I had solid maple shafts that shot accurately and a 314 that let me move the ball well. Now I have both. With the carbon fiber I get the light weight for low deflection that helps me make shots while spinning the cue ball. I think the stiffness helps my accuracy. I can't say that there is no wood shaft that will deliver both the low deflection and accuracy but I found it in my carbon shaft. I prefer the feel of a wood shaft in my bridge hand if the finish is smooth and my hand isn't sticky. I might actually prefer the hit and feedback of a wood shaft, too. I figured I could work my way up the chain of wood shafts or go ahead and spring for the carbon fiber, and I'm glad I did. Yes, $500 is a ridiculous price, considering a tennis racket is $250 or less. Then again, graphite golf club shafts range from $13 to $425+.
 
I think we have all played with cues that we shot well with and those we didn't. So maybe sometimes it is the arrow. I'm shooting really well and moving the cue ball around well with the CF. I had solid maple shafts that shot accurately and a 314 that let me move the ball well. Now I have both. With the carbon fiber I get the light weight for low deflection that helps me make shots while spinning the cue ball. I think the stiffness helps my accuracy. I can't say that there is no wood shaft that will deliver both the low deflection and accuracy but I found it in my carbon shaft. I prefer the feel of a wood shaft in my bridge hand if the finish is smooth and my hand isn't sticky. I might actually prefer the hit and feedback of a wood shaft, too. I figured I could work my way up the chain of wood shafts or go ahead and spring for the carbon fiber, and I'm glad I did. Yes, $500 is a ridiculous price, considering a tennis racket is $250 or less. Then again, graphite golf club shafts range from $13 to $425+.
I am with you on the feel of wood. Tbh I think one thing that gets overlooked sometimes for many is what MM and taper do you actually prefer vs the material of the shaft. I see a lot of people going into the 11's with a conical. I hate conical tapers. After playing with several shafts my sweet spot is 12.5 long pro taper. 30 inch shafts make a big difference for me not having to get the bridge out on my 9ft'er. Getting down into the 11's I just don't understand. We aren't playing snooker. I get plenty of action out in the 12.5 mm range. Anyway as always it's all personal preference. Just interesting to see the diameters shrinking from the standard 13's down to the 11's.
 
Sent in my cue to Viking for a new vpro shaft-msrp $139. Sounds cheap right? By the time I was done it cost me $285 plus shipping to Viking. So $300. maybe cfs aren’t so bad price wise. Get what you like. Another $100 gets me cfs that’s probably not gonna warp. And I’d probably have a hell of a time breaking it over my knee. Well worth the extra cash.
Why did you have to send a production cue in just to buy the cheapest shaft Viking makes?

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