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jhanso18

jhanso18

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I see a thread that says "MONSTER CUE FROM _______" When I open the thread I see a 4 point cue with veneers, some mild inlay work in the points and but sleeve with fairly simple rings. Nothing crazy inovative, or intricate, just a well put together slightly fancier than that builders normal work, but nothing wild.

Am I the only person that sees a nice cue and not a monster cue? Taking away my personal prefferences (for example I don't care for veneers. I prefer recuts.) I see what is a nice cue, but certainly no monster. It reminds me of the "hits a ton" description.

I'm not looking to offend anyone, or call out any builders. I simply just don't see these fairly simple cues as "MONSTERS" just nice looking cues. I know there are a lot of people that really like the old school 4point design, me included sometimes, but do we really need to label them as monsters? I think anything short of being worthy to be nominated for the "Cue of the Year" isn't really a monster cue.

I'm not looking to start a flame war, promote this cue builder over that one, or single anybody out. I'm looking more for input on what you consider makes an over the top or "MONSTER" cue. Does it need to be an innovative design, or just something that takes a design or style to the extreme.

My example would be the "Cash Money" cue. Keith Hanssen is kown for his intricate rings, and point work. The "Cash Money" cue exemplifies his style. (first pic) Taking Keith's personal style of cue to the limits of what he does. This to me, is a "monster" cue. He also builds nice simpler cues like this unnamed cue. (second pic) It's a great cue, looks and plays great. Just doesn't say monster to me at all.

(I don't mean to shamelessly promote my favorite builder, but it's who I am most familiar with and have an example of. Please feel free to share a pic and explain why you feel it to be a monster.)

I'd also throw out that BHQ, Jerry R, Black Boar, PFD, Jacoby, Cognacenti, and many more that I'm missing, regularly crank out monsters, as well as basic stuff. I just didn't have a good example of two cues to show the difference between there monster and basic cues.

So all this being said, am I crazy to not think of a well put together 4 point veneered cue with a few extra inlays as a monster?
 

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The real monster is my Players HXTE10. It has genuine decal points.

Hits a ton! But alas, there's no taper roll...so I guess it's not perfect.
 
There are so many ways to describe a nicely made cue with a few inlays, calling it a monster shows some wayward salesmanship IMO.

They're all monster cues depending on which aspect of the cue you are referring to.
When I start building cues I'll call them Monster Cues with a little monster logo, and put an end to all this monster crap.
After I post a couple of those babies :eek: people will think twice about calling their cue a monster.
 
cuesblues said:
There are so many ways to describe a nicely made cue with a few inlays, calling it a monster shows some wayward salesmanship IMO.

They're all monster cues depending on which aspect of the cue you are referring to.
When I start building cues I'll call them Monster Cues with a little monster logo, and put an end to all this monster crap.
After I post a couple of those babies :eek: people will think twice about calling their cue a monster.
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I love it. Can I get on your list now?
 
jhanso18 said:
I see a thread that says "MONSTER CUE FROM _______" When I open the thread I see a 4 point cue with veneers, some mild inlay work in the points and but sleeve with fairly simple rings. Nothing crazy inovative, or intricate, just a well put together slightly fancier than that builders normal work, but nothing wild.

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I personally stay away from the folks that use verbiage that is over the top. If that cue is a MONSTER, and he see's it as a MONSTER, then his opinion of the condition is probably going to be way off as well, not too mention the slight taper roll :)

And when they are off on condition and roll, it usually is NOT in your favor !!!
 
'Monster' and 'hits a ton' is the AZ equivalent of ebay's 'L@@k' or 'must see'.

It really means 'I think you're an idiot, let me exploit you'.

Choose the seller as much as the product.
 
I think it all depends on who the cuemaker is. If the cue was made by George Balabushka or Gus Szamboti and has veneers, rings and inlays, you can probably expect to pay well north of $25,000. That would be quite a monster to me!
 
So where exactly is the definition of "monster cue" and "hits a ton"?

What one feels is a monster cue to them, may not be to you. Quit *****ing and go on with life...If this is the biggest thing bothering in your life...rethink life!
 
Actually, I prefer just 4 points with veneers and a few simple inlays. Much more than that runs into "too gaudy" territory.
But that's just me...and I doubt I'd use the phrase "monster". I mean, isn't that for those silly trucks the kids love?
 
tank69 said:
So where exactly is the definition of "monster cue" and "hits a ton"?

What one feels is a monster cue to them, may not be to you. Quit *****ing and go on with life...If this is the biggest thing bothering in your life...rethink life!
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The cue has to be 60" or larger with shafts over 13 mm to be classified as a "monster player", and quite a bit larger to "hit a ton".
For instance, if I posted a big ole long cue with big fat ****ing long shafts, and it plays really good, I might call it a monster player, but not a monster cue.
I don't get the monster cue thing, and as far as "hits a ton" goes, it could take more calculations to figure that one out.
 
cuesblues said:
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The cue has to be 60" or larger with shafts over 13 mm to be classified as a "monster player", and quite a bit larger to "hit a ton".
For instance, if I posted a big ole long cue with big fat ****ing long shafts, and it plays really good, I might call it a monster player, but not a monster cue.
I don't get the monster cue thing, and as far as "hits a ton" goes, it could take more calculations to figure that one out.
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Now I got it! Thanks! :thumbup2:
 
Sigh...still waiting for Steve to either give me (preferred), or sell me (eek) his Tangiers cue...probably will be waiting a loooong time :frown:
 
tank69 said:
So where exactly is the definition of "monster cue" and "hits a ton"?

What one feels is a monster cue to them, may not be to you. Quit *****ing and go on with life...If this is the biggest thing bothering in your life...rethink life!
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No *****ing here. just a random thought on a slow day at work. I have plenty I could choose to complain about.
 
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