Come on, man. That's not a fair. Did Jerry hurt you emotionally in some way?
Mcworter or Owens
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I love his designs, just being true to the to the term production vs custom cue maker. Did Jerry ever do custom work ?
Both are awesome. I agree with the Hungarian in that Jerry is more into artistic designs and Bob more traditional although either could make anything if requested. Known Bob and Gabe a long time and they are super to deal with on top of being expert craftsmen.
billiards_watch
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There are certain guys you don't ask to do custom work.
You wouldn't hire Picasso and tell him how to paint a picture of your family is an example.
A lot of these cue builders are famous for their design, hit and construction. Telling a cue maker to build a cue to your exact specs is disrespectful. If you're buying a Szamboti, then you give him what your preferred specs are and let him build whatever he wants. Give some input and let him work his magic. Maybe request a certain color or weight.
It's like calling Southwest and telling them to build you a butterfly cue. LOL Nobody does that because they are buying them for their style.
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Cowboy (joined 2007) has 100% (+) feedback going back to 2014 and was well missed the last time he stopped posting. You have none.
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Frosty
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I lurked on this site for almost 10 years before recently joining. It always perplexed me why many ask the opinions of others on something like this that is a significant investment, as well as it is one that would seemingly be a more personal choice as you have to play with it. Everyone is different and likes what they like. 
Not likely to find either of these cues to try out. And what is the better investment? Many questions in one. Thanks for your keen advice though.I lurked on this site for almost 10 years before recently joining. It always perplexed me why many ask the opinions of others on something like this that is a significant investment, as well as it is one that would seemingly be a more personal choice as you have to play with it. Everyone is different and likes what they like.
Frosty
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Given your response I can’t really tell if you’re genuine or a smart aleck. If you can’t find one to try, and you are relying on the advice of those that own or have played with these cues then that’s kind of a crap shoot. As I stated in my first response, everyone is different, while some may like or dislike how those cues play or look, there’s no guarantee that will align with what you feel is a good playing or looking cue. The same goes with which is the best investment, the cue market is always in flux and a cue is only worth as much as what a potential buyer is willing to pay for it. The best playing cue for you is what you feel plays well, the same with its aesthetic look. As far as investment goes, to me an investment in cues is a quality, reputable builder that builds something that plays and looks good to me and will last a lifetime of play and to be passed on to someone, but that’s just my opinion and holds no value for others. There’s far better things to spend money on as an investment if it’s an investment that you’re looking for a return on. Good luck
billiards_watch
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Cues are not an investment. I hang out at watch forums and most watch collectors like to tell people that watches aren't investments either. If watches aren't investments then cues are certainly not. It yields no return except an emotional one and if that's an investment then cool. There is nothing wrong with that.
I have a build going and I went with a cue maker that makes a certain design that I like. I want his cue and design.
If I wanted a custom, designed by me, then any cue maker is just fine. As long as they can make it come to fruition.
Usually you can tell if a cue is designed from a cue maker or its a custom design. Some will make it no matter what even if its ugly.
An example would be a tattoo artist. If you said you wanted a penis tattoo on your forehead then some artist will do it. No matter what. Some artist would say no and refuse to put one on your forehead. The same goes for cues. Some will make your ugly design and some won't.
I left the designing process to the professional.
I have a build going and I went with a cue maker that makes a certain design that I like. I want his cue and design.
If I wanted a custom, designed by me, then any cue maker is just fine. As long as they can make it come to fruition.
Usually you can tell if a cue is designed from a cue maker or its a custom design. Some will make it no matter what even if its ugly.
An example would be a tattoo artist. If you said you wanted a penis tattoo on your forehead then some artist will do it. No matter what. Some artist would say no and refuse to put one on your forehead. The same goes for cues. Some will make your ugly design and some won't.
I left the designing process to the professional.
billiards_watch
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One of the best.
Anytime you can execute different build and designs makes you good.
Yep. I put asscue on ignore soon after he showed up. brings nothing to the party.
billiards_watch
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Stick to your Chinese carbon shafts. That seems like your expertise. Your most famous thread is about Chinese shafts and cues. Amazon and Temu. LOL
Leave the customs to us.
I buy them. You look at them from afar.
vintagecollectibles831
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I believe that McWorter is a Hall of Fame cue maker, correct me if I am wrong? I understand that Bob Owen is also a really great cue maker, and builds very beautiful cues, but personally, if I had to choose, I would rather have a McWorter. McWorter cues are very artistic, and unique, from other cue makers, I believe. He is also probably more well known then Bob Owen. His cues probably hold their value more then Bob Owen cues. Not sure though.
vintagecollectibles831
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Lol, McWorter is a Production cue? That is hilarious. That is like saying that Cognoscenti cues are Production cues, because they all look the same, lol.
vintagecollectibles831
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I am crazy about the look of RC3 cues, by Richard Chudy.
vintagecollectibles831
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He is an artist. He creates his own art, the way he wants to. Would you call any Painting, done by hand, a Production Painting? Lol.
vintagecollectibles831
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Yeah, I believe that Mike Lambros might be one example. His style is pretty unique, I believe, and I believe that he sticks to that style. RC3 cues is another good example, I believe. Cognoscenti is another. Not sure though. But, these are cue makers that when you see one of their cues, you just know that that cue maker made it, before you even see the logo or signature.
Define Custom cue maker and define production cue maker, without factoring the cost of the cue, then decide where McWorter stands....