Where I play if you don't get a set with a cue ball with dots, you have a mud ball. Always go for the dots.
Measle ball is a training ball
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I know how to settle this.....bet something and you can bring any cueball you like. Good players don't play differently because of the ball....the adjustment is made. Light or heavy cueball, dots or not.
Aramith measle cueball is the standard of the day still in any real poolhall.
You want to talk about bad cueballs remember Cyclops? Finish was like glass, the ball slides and rolls awkward because they had air bubbles in them.
so by conclusion, if i put more dots i make more balls
what if i just make a ball thats all red
will i get perfect position every time?
what about if i made the dots much fatter they are about 3/8 id say, if i got to 7/8 dot size i will for sure win the next us open
thanks!
what if i just make a ball thats all red
will i get perfect position every time?
what about if i made the dots much fatter they are about 3/8 id say, if i got to 7/8 dot size i will for sure win the next us open
thanks!
billiards_watch
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I wouldn't say you guys would make more balls but it helps people know where to aim. What do you think the dots are for?
Find a guy or friend that plays with one on the regular. Swap out the ball. I think you will see what I'm talking about.
Find a guy or friend that plays with one on the regular. Swap out the ball. I think you will see what I'm talking about.
billiards_watch
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The fact that this is a controversial topic or the reaction I get says a lot. I'm just saying it is a training ball and look how many people come in defense of it or felt offended. Reactions says a lot.
One of these are not alike. I will just stop there.
Training balls:
Measle ball:
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Regular ball:
One of these are not alike. I will just stop there.
Training balls:
Measle ball:
Regular ball:
You are wrong in your premiseOne of these are not alike. I will just stop there.
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The measle ball is not a training ball
Since the dots will settle in a random way when the cue ball stops, I don’t see how you can use the dots for aiming
If you do not play as well with a measle ball as a ball with no markings, it’s in your head
Jmho
JABSolstice
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It really doesn't. As bbb pointed out, the spots rest at random places every shot.
That has been explained many times above.
We have. There are many players, myself included, who are the guy or friend you are referencing. None of us notice any difference in shot making ability or cueball control.
We understand that you think it helps. That's great, you do you. There certainly isn't anyone here offended, as you claim. This is a discussion board where we discuss things. You proposed a topic, and then didn't get the reassurance you were looking for.
Swap out the ball with what? Some old red circle that weighs 156g, I've got two red measle, one black measle, Arcos2 measle, they all weigh within 1 gram of each other and play the same. The ProCup measle sure gets dirty more.
I like to use it bcuz the league guys and newbies look over and watch that bad boy spin for 20 seconds or more after I juice a shot just to f*** with em.
I like to watch the lil red dots spin around... I'm medicated. Did you have to ask??Is that what those dots are for?? Aiming?? I just thot they were for decoration.
The measles is not a training ball though I suppose you can use it to observe how many rpms your stroke is generating (I’m a bit surprised no one has mentioned Elephant Balls which were true training balls).
As previously mentioned the measles (red) does seem to have a softer composition and smudges easily. However, the blue measles, used on and off at the DCC the last few years, is a different animal. You can put your biggest baddest miscue on it and it will not leave a mark.
Lou Figueroa
As previously mentioned the measles (red) does seem to have a softer composition and smudges easily. However, the blue measles, used on and off at the DCC the last few years, is a different animal. You can put your biggest baddest miscue on it and it will not leave a mark.
Lou Figueroa
Anybody who plays better because they can see the spin on the ball isn't very good in the first place so I doubt their position play will be affected by using a ball with or without dots. Any player who is precise at position play knows what spin was used to achieve desired position using a cue ball with or without dots. It takes a lot of time to become adept at cue ball positioning, first you must learn the cue balls natural path on all of the various hits then you need to learn to spin the cue ball to achieve your desired results, by the time a player gets to that point they don't dots on a cue ball to tell them what is going on. Bottom line is the dots don't make a difference to the player, only to the people watching who want to see some entertainment.
billiards_watch
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6 and strategically placed on all 3 axis. So you can see them at all times and aim accordingly. The dots act very similar to landmarks on a map. It's an aiming aide for the shooter and has made its way to the professional level. Some say its made for television but who knows why this ball was introduced. I quit playing and came back and noticed they are at pool halls. I thought it was to help the casual players play.
I have no problems with it but it just looks like a ugly thing amongst gorgeous centennials. Give me a red circle and you would think I'm a magician. LOL
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billiards_watch
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According to AI:
A "measle ball," typically referring to a cue ball in pool with small red dots, is designed to help players easily see the spin being applied to the ball, allowing them to better visualize and practice different types of shots like topspin, sidespin, and english, especially when learning or improving their game.
Key points about a measle ball:
A "measle ball," typically referring to a cue ball in pool with small red dots, is designed to help players easily see the spin being applied to the ball, allowing them to better visualize and practice different types of shots like topspin, sidespin, and english, especially when learning or improving their game.
Key points about a measle ball:
- Visual cue for spin:
The red dots on the ball make it easier to see how the ball is rotating when struck, helping players understand the effect of their cueing technique.
- Practice and training tool:
Often used by players of all levels to practice precise cueing and identify any unintentional side spin they might be applying.
- Professional level usage:
High-quality "measle balls" are often seen on televised pool matches, where commentators can easily explain the spin being applied to the cue ball.
Notice that there is nothing said about an aid for aiming
Also note the benefit comes AFTER you hit the ball ie see the spin applied
billiards_watch
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First sentence. Keywords and phrase; help player see easily, allowing them to better visualize and practice, "when learning or improving" their game.
It's sounds like a training ball or an "aiming aide" marketed to the players through the "television ball" concept. This is just my opinion on how to sell more stuff from the industry. Don't get me started on jump cues.