Medium Roast vs Dark Roast ( non cored )

muskyed said:
My experience with a Kielwood shaft, Jacoby, I only have one. The shaft, dark roast radial 30" 3.5 oz, was a little too light in balance up front for my taste. I drilled and tapped in for a short piece of 5/16"x14 pin of .3 oz to give it a slight more forward balance for my preference. My feeling is that with this combination I get the weight I want without the front end weight of a shaft that was naturally at 3.8 oz. Also I tapered it down to 12.5 mm from the 12.75 mm as received just so it matched my other shafts that I was used to.
As to whether the front end is cored or not, or does it have lower deflection than my Jacoby Ultra shafts or Rhino carbon shafts, I am not qualified enough to tell you. I will say that I shoot all three without any compensation.
I changed the tip to an Ultraskin black med like I have on my Ultra wood shafts, but changed it again to a black soft as the hit was too harsh. I am considering going softer yet to an ultraskin pro as even with the soft it is still harsh. The shaft has an incredible amount of energy transfer, even more than my carbon shafts. The shaft has a finish that feels hard and similar to a carbon shaft.
That's all I've got on my one Kielwood shaft. Your views or experiences may be different and that's fine, but these are my views on my shaft.
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I also use ultraskin. The soft is softer than the pro, the pro is closer to medium. If you want softer, go with the ultraskin ivory soft, it's the bounciest of the bunch, or they have a super soft in black.
 
CeaseLess said:
I also use ultraskin. The soft is softer than the pro, the pro is closer to medium. If you want softer, go with the ultraskin ivory soft, it's the bounciest of the bunch, or they have a super soft in black.
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Not so sure about that. Their web page shows the black pro as being the softest of the black version, and by the feel of the hit, I would have to agree. I was thinking of trying some ivory ones as others spoke highly on them but I don't need any more tips for awhile. I would like to try a Thoroughbred tip.

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VerySoft 62.2

Soft 64.8

Medium 72.1

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muskyed said:
Not so sure about that. Their web page shows the black pro as being the softest of the black version, and by the feel of the hit, I would have to agree. I was thinking of trying some ivory ones as others spoke highly on them but I don't need any more tips for awhile. I would like to try a Thoroughbred tip.

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PRO 61.8

VerySoft 62.2

Soft 64.8

Medium 72.1

Hard 76.6

HH 78.7
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The Thoroughbred tips are outstanding IMO. I used a medium-soft, and was very pleased.
 
j2pac said:
The Thoroughbred tips are outstanding IMO. I used a medium-soft, and was very pleased.
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Thank's, I'm probably going to order a few to try. Was your tip used on a carbon or wood shaft? I tend to use a slightly softer on my carbon shafts than my wood shafts, but this kielwood shaft I have is different in that I have to use a softer tip than my other wood shafts for what I like.
 
muskyed said:
Thank's, I'm probably going to order a few to try. Was your tip used on a carbon or wood shaft? I tend to use a slightly softer on my carbon shafts than my wood shafts, but this kielwood shaft I have is different in that I have to use a softer tip than my other wood shafts for what I like.
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I know wood for sure. I can't remember if I used one on a CF shaft or not.
 
muskyed said:
Thank's, I'm probably going to order a few to try. Was your tip used on a carbon or wood shaft? I tend to use a slightly softer on my carbon shafts than my wood shafts, but this kielwood shaft I have is different in that I have to use a softer tip than my other wood shafts for what I like.
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Thoroughbreds are nice tip, but I haven't used one on a Kielwood. I'm sure it would be fine.

I used Med Ivory Ultraskin without issue I could notice. I decided to try out an SIB soft cool blue tip. First soft I've tried and I do like it so far.

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Medium Fire Ultraskin on this one. The owner is very happy with it.

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Hail Mary Shot said:
do you like the SIB better?
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They are comparable. Ultraskin's and SIB's were once sold together by Tom (RIP). Richard took over the SIB line around 2017-18 I think.

I like how it plays and has held its shape well. As far as my ability to decern, it is not drastically better or worse for me. Solid performer with no complaints.
 
SSDiver2112 said:
They are comparable. Ultraskin's and SIB's were once sold together by Tom (RIP). Richard took over the SIB line around 2017-18 I think.

I like how it plays and has held its shape well. As far as my ability to decern, it is not drastically better or worse for me. Solid performer with no complaints.
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I see. What I'm curious right now is the Bulletproof tips. But then again, for the price that I pay for Ultraskins, it's a hard sell.
 
SSDiver2112 said:
Thoroughbreds are nice tip, but I haven't used one on a Kielwood. I'm sure it would be fine.

I used Med Ivory Ultraskin without issue I could notice. I decided to try out an SIB soft cool blue tip. First soft I've tried and I do like it so far.

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Medium Fire Ultraskin on this one. The owner is very happy with it.

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Rick,

I think it is time to do business for a fancy SP cue with KW shaft, probably a radial or 3/8 pin. I’ll send you a PM.

Matt
 
SSDiver2112 said:
Thoroughbreds are nice tip, but I haven't used one on a Kielwood. I'm sure it would be fine.

I used Med Ivory Ultraskin without issue I could notice. I decided to try out an SIB soft cool blue tip. First soft I've tried and I do like it so far.

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Medium Fire Ultraskin on this one. The owner is very happy with it.

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That cue is outstanding. 👍
 
DeeDeeCues said:
Torrifying is done in a vacuum.
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False Torrification just requires little to no oxygen in the atmosphere. It can very much be done in a chamber pumped with an inert gas
DeeDeeCues said:
Torrifying is done in a vacuum.
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100% false. Torrification is done in atmospheric conditions with inert gas (nitrogen) pumped in. It can be done under a vaccum but that is a much much more complicated massively more difficult thing to do than using inert gasses to displace oxygen in the air.

All industrial Torrification is done via inert gas injection
 
greyghost said:
False Torrification just requires little to no oxygen in the atmosphere. It can very much be done in a chamber pumped with an inert gas

100% false. Torrification is done in atmospheric conditions with inert gas (nitrogen) pumped in. It can be done under a vaccum but that is a much much more complicated massively more difficult thing to do than using inert gasses to displace oxygen in the air.

All industrial Torrification is done via inert gas injection
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Good to know. It is my understanding that the presence of oxygen leads to the darker final product, which is generally termed, 'roasted'.
 
DeeDeeCues said:
Good to know. It is my understanding that the presence of oxygen leads to the darker final product, which is generally termed, 'roasted'.
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It will still darken in an oxygenless atmosphere. But lower temps with some oxygen would cause it as well but there’s a fine line there in regards to actual combustion occurring. Hence keeping oxygen levels low to nothing with inert gas injection.

I wonder how many are just baking them in ovens at lower temps lol
 
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