Microadjustments - Conscious vs. Subconscious?

[BC21]

does it really matter how you get there if your final stroke is straight? is it really important if you adjust multiple or individual parts of your body?

It depends. Playing great pool requires great consistency. A player can devote a few thousand hours to small individual adjustments/tweaks, like twisting the wrist one way or another, or whatever, and eventually they'll develop a good level of consistency doing whatever they're doing with all the pieces. But I think the road to consistency can be much shorter by focusing on less moving parts, treating the stance and stroke as one consistent piece of machinery.

With that said, the final stroke relies on the consistency of all the individual pieces. So, in order to get to that level efficiently, it makes more sense to have those pieces moving in the same consistent way as often as possible, rather than always tweaking a piece here and there with inconsistent adjustments to make it work. Repetition is the key, repeating consistent motions. It's how you develop muscle memory, and the fewer parts/pieces involved, the faster you get there.

 

[BC21]

The key word in this thread is 'Micro'. Talking about tip gap or wrist movement, bridge, front or back hand, stance or any other aspect of fundamentals isn't really germane to a discussion about "micro adjustments"
The amount of adjustment here is so small as to be non existent (1/64th of an inch, 1/10th of a mm) and will have zero effect on any aspect of ones stroke or fundamentals regardless if they're good or bad.
Post 16 is close but I don't agree much with 'moving the machine'. Seems to be way to much for a 'micro' adjustment. Even a "slight alteration" in body placement would result in too much adjustment.
Post 4 is closer but I'd ask that he give some thought to a couple of things. One is to consider attempting to give up conscious control of these adjustments. Let your subconscious guide them. Being able to do this with no conscious thought is an aspect of achieving dead stroke.
The second would be "being off a few mm's with your bridge hand when you get down" No. That is a huge amount which can't and shouldn't be corrected by microadjustments.
JMO

I agree. The micro-adjustments are not conscious adjustments. When I say the stance and stroke are like a machine, that simply means it performs like a machine. We simply have to place the machine where it needs to be, consciously, then the subconscious takes over (using muscle memory and visual recognition, aka "feel") and fine-tunes/micro-adjusts.

 

[z0nt0n3r]

It depends. Playing great pool requires great consistency. A player can devote a few thousand hours to small individual adjustments/tweaks, like twisting the wrist one way or another, or whatever, and eventually they'll develop a good level of consistency doing whatever they're doing with all the pieces. But I think the road to consistency can be much shorter by focusing on less moving parts, treating the stance and stroke as one consistent piece of machinery.

With that said, the final stroke relies on the consistency of all the individual pieces. So, in order to get to that level efficiently, it makes more sense to have those pieces moving in the same consistent way as often as possible, rather than always tweaking a piece here and there with inconsistent adjustments to make it work. Repetition is the key, repeating consistent motions. It's how you develop muscle memory, and the fewer parts/pieces involved, the faster you get there.

my adjustments aren't inconsistent, i do the same thing almost every time.

what i do is that i turn my wrist marginally so when i address the CB my thumb is very slightly inwards towards my body (by a very small amount which it's hard to even notice), and during the practice strokes the wrist gradually turns slightly away from my body so after i finish the last practice stroke my thumb points pretty much straight down to the floor (which is the shooting position most players have) and it remains that way during the stroke.

i have reached a high level of pool playing like this and have made it repeatable but having said that i may expirement with removing practice strokes almost entirely from my game because if you think about a consistent cue action, it makes sense to have as few moving parts as possible but i'm also aware that practice strokes have benefits as well.