Milk Dud Question and Vacuum Sealing

mooseman

mooseman

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A couple of weeks ago someone posted something about using a vacuvin to expedite the soaking of a tip for use as a milk dud. Unfortunately the post disappeared. It did get me thinking though... would it work?

For example shouldn't it work the same way as you marinate a piece of meat? Wouldn't it draw the liquid further into your tip? Worse case scenario would be to just try it......
 
I microwave the tips in milk for 30 seconds until hot. Let it cool and nuke again. By this time, the tips have already gained in size. Pretty much all they are going to. Put them in tip presses for approx 4 hours, even as little as 3, remove and let air dry. I can do 3 sets of tips in a day, you can't get much faster than that.
And they play just as well, even better than when I was soaking for 24 hours and pressing the same amount.
John Rocker (Rocket Cues) makes reasonably priced presses and so does Joe Picone (EBay, type in tip presses).
Either one, worth the investment if you want to make a good Dud.
 
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Basically what has been learned in the process of epoxy impregnating wood will work with any porous materials.

If a porous specimen is placed in a vacuum it will draw more medium into the specimen than soaking only. The only thing to consider is that the time for complete saturation is decreased with higher negative pressure. This basically means that even a minor vacuum will insure total saturation but it will take longer than having the vacuum pulling several atmospheres....

The vacuum process can be pulled off using a plastic bag, medium and a dust buster if you can get the bag to seal under vacuum....
 
Microwaving would definitely open the pours of the leather.. Not completely sure that this would completely saturate the tip or not but it would definately be superior to just soaking them......
 
wouldn't a Space Bag work? Those are the plastic bags which come with one way valves to hook up to a vaccum cleaner.

http://www.spacebag.com/

FWIW we have used a vaccum cleaner, a bag and duct tape to wet mold leather. It works.
 
We picked up one of the foodsaver vacuum sealers. FYI: NOT JUST FOR THIS PURPOSE. Going to try it and see how well it works.

I'm trying a triangle and a le pro in the container with milk not quite covering the tips. When I applied the vacuum I did notice tiny bubbles appearing on top of the Le Pro. This tells me air was being removed.

If I was doing this scientifically I would have take pictures of the before and after of what the tip looked using this method.
 
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