milk duds!
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pooldawg8s will tell you how, maybe not his secret, but you will find it's less expensive to buy his. They are absolutely great.
I've played with pooldawgs duds and I can tell you he has his process down... I could likely give you a process that would be very close but out of respect for him and several others I can only give you the basics..
Take 13mm elk masters and toss em in a bowl of water... any of them that float... Toss em in the trash.....
Now take the non floating tips and put them in a glass of milk... DO NOT NUKE THEM OR HEAT THE MILK...
Put the milk glass in the fridge and forget about them....
After 3 days take one of the tips and cut it in half with a good pair of shears.... IF they are wet in the middle you are ready if not back into the fridge for another day...
If they were ready then set them out where they can dry and the casein can solidify.... May take a few days to air dry....
Press them to your liking in a vise or large clamp... For 13mm (2) 1/2" diam bolts and 1/2" diam tube from Home Depot will suffice as a press on the cheap... The tube are in the hardware drawers where they have all of the odds and ends like cotter pins and keyways...... They will likely be slighly under 13mm just an FYI.. Just pointing out a way to try these out on the cheap cheap.. Tip presses are sold on ebay and are not cheap cheap =)
There is a thickness reference on here somewhere for what soft, medium and hard roughly equates to... If noone posts it on here I'll dig it up for you.....
This is the basic process... People have been doing them for years and there are things you can do in the process to make them better.. I can guarantee pooldawg's process has his own modifications so don't be upset if yours don't measure up for quite awhile......
Chris
Take 13mm elk masters and toss em in a bowl of water... any of them that float... Toss em in the trash.....
Now take the non floating tips and put them in a glass of milk... DO NOT NUKE THEM OR HEAT THE MILK...
Put the milk glass in the fridge and forget about them....
After 3 days take one of the tips and cut it in half with a good pair of shears.... IF they are wet in the middle you are ready if not back into the fridge for another day...
If they were ready then set them out where they can dry and the casein can solidify.... May take a few days to air dry....
Press them to your liking in a vise or large clamp... For 13mm (2) 1/2" diam bolts and 1/2" diam tube from Home Depot will suffice as a press on the cheap... The tube are in the hardware drawers where they have all of the odds and ends like cotter pins and keyways...... They will likely be slighly under 13mm just an FYI.. Just pointing out a way to try these out on the cheap cheap.. Tip presses are sold on ebay and are not cheap cheap =)
There is a thickness reference on here somewhere for what soft, medium and hard roughly equates to... If noone posts it on here I'll dig it up for you.....
This is the basic process... People have been doing them for years and there are things you can do in the process to make them better.. I can guarantee pooldawg's process has his own modifications so don't be upset if yours don't measure up for quite awhile......
Chris
I have 2 tip presses that I purchased. One is Picones tip press that he sells on ebay. I bought the other from Rocket Cues here on AZ. You can't go wrong with either. I also invested in a drill vise from Grizzly and finally a torque wrench so I can duplicate the pressure I want to use each time. If you purchase the Picone press he includes some great hints on pressing tips.
There is actually some pretty good information for hardening leather for armor use. Just do a google search.
I enjoy experimenting and trying different things for my own use. Suffice it to say I doubt I will ever use a layered tip again.
There is actually some pretty good information for hardening leather for armor use. Just do a google search.
I enjoy experimenting and trying different things for my own use. Suffice it to say I doubt I will ever use a layered tip again.
Ive read about milk duds for years on here. How do they hit, soft, medium, hard?
How do they compare to the Kamui Black line? Equal? Better? Worse?
Thanks!
How do they compare to the Kamui Black line? Equal? Better? Worse?
Thanks!
Floaters are porous and less dense, they are ok after soaking and pressing and turn into sinkers.
I made my own tip press contraption that would compensate for the dome.
The shape it has is Dime Shape, so when it was pressed, the tip dome has even pressure applied.
Am I missing something ? The pic looks like the tips won't sit right on the ferrule.
yes, you are not understanding what it is. the thing in the picture is not the tip, but a dime shaped pressing jig. It has a dime shaped recess, so that it applies even pressure to the tip when pressed.
The elk masters, lepro, and triangle tips come preshaped, when they are pressed on a flat surface, the dome center gets pressed first, then the sides. Using that method, the center has a greater density than the sides.
Using this dome shape, you are retaining the dime shape and density of the original elkmaster/lepro/triangle tip.
I have pooldawg8 duds on my cues. To me they get english like a soft, feel like a medium and hold their shape like a hard.
Its like the best of all worlds IMHO.
Heath, I started using Jeff's dawgduds a couple months ago and I really like them. Are they better than Kamui or Moori? No not really. But they are great tips. Like has been said, they hit like a good medium hard single layer tip, hold chalk well, and don't mushroom (so far anyway). I like the height of the tip too. I had started getting Kamui Blacks put on, and for my last one, I told the guy to cut off the top half because I hate a thick tip. Waste of money at the cost of Kamui tips. You cannot beat the price of the dawgduds if you like them. Only $3 a piece.
Oh now i get it and now that I'm not looking at it thru a phone now I'm going to have to find something around the house for a nickel shape.
Good job BTW
Heath-
I contacted pooldawg last night and am paying him for 4 of them this morning. If they arrive by Saturday, I'll give you one at SBE this weekend. If not, I'll just mail it to you next week.
Hey just hook up with Jeff (pooldawg8) at the Expo. I know he will be there.
Yeah I will probably do that. I want to hit a few balls with one before I get some though. Changing my tip is a major change for me.
Thanks. :smile: