Molavia Tip Review

buddha162

buddha162

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I've been using the newest Moori Quicks for the past year and loved them, but was always looking for something better. I ordered a couple of Molavia Hards and had them on my cue for over a week now, and I can honestly say that they are better than Mooris.

First, I like a hard tip and the Molavias hit slightly crisper than the Moori Q's I've had. Also, the leather in the Molavia is finer grained, as I noticed when shaping with my willard shaper. I see fewer leather particles during shaping, and what comes off is more powdery (the Mooris came off in "wetter" clumps, if that makes any sense).

The layers are as evenly uniform as Mooris are, but the color is much lighter, almost a blond sidewall even after burnishing.

But most importantly, this tip did not mushroom at all, not even a little bit. In fact, I had the sidewalls slightly tapered in, and after 6 nights of solid play the taper held true, no flaring whatsoever anywhere in the tip. I (anally) shape my tips to a perfect nickel curve, and the center barely compressed.

Anyway, sorry for the long post, but I'm pretty excited about these tips, mainly because they seem to be far lower maintanence than the mooris, and hit slightly better for my tastes. I'm a complete nutcase when it comes to equipment, and I need a tip that will stay put and not change shape after a hard session of 9-ball, and I think I found it in hard Molavias.

-Roger
 
buddha162 said:
I've been using the newest Moori Quicks for the past year and loved them, but was always looking for something better. I ordered a couple of Molavia Hards and had them on my cue for over a week now, and I can honestly say that they are better than Mooris.

First, I like a hard tip and the Molavias hit slightly crisper than the Moori Q's I've had. Also, the leather in the Molavia is finer grained, as I noticed when shaping with my willard shaper. I see fewer leather particles during shaping, and what comes off is more powdery (the Mooris came off in "wetter" clumps, if that makes any sense).

The layers are as evenly uniform as Mooris are, but the color is much lighter, almost a blond sidewall even after burnishing.

But most importantly, this tip did not mushroom at all, not even a little bit. In fact, I had the sidewalls slightly tapered in, and after 6 nights of solid play the taper held true, no flaring whatsoever anywhere in the tip. I (anally) shape my tips to a perfect nickel curve, and the center barely compressed.

Anyway, sorry for the long post, but I'm pretty excited about these tips, mainly because they seem to be far lower maintanence than the mooris, and hit slightly better for my tastes. I'm a complete nutcase when it comes to equipment, and I need a tip that will stay put and not change shape after a hard session of 9-ball, and I think I found it in hard Molavias.

-Roger
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i use moori quicks as well. i'm always in the market for new things though. where can you find the molavias and how much are they? also, do they glaze over as quick as the moori? i've found that the only complaint i have with the moori is that you have to constantly check to make sure it hasn't glazed over.

thanks
 
Molavia tips ? Sounds like a former Soviet Union state or some Eastern European country :p

Still not much different tips available here... I'll have to stick with Mooris and Le Pros.. I've had two Talisman tips and both of them delaminated.
 
mjantti said:
Molavia tips ? Sounds like a former Soviet Union state or some Eastern European country :p

Still not much different tips available here... I'll have to stick with Mooris and Le Pros.. I've had two Talisman tips and both of them delaminated.
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two words that should never been in the same sentence.........moori and le pro........LOL
 
vapoolplayer said:
two words that should never been in the same sentence.........moori and le pro........LOL
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:D

Yeah, I know. I'm a freak. I've used both and like them both. Le Pro is soft and I seem to play very well with soft tips, but I don't like Le Pro because it has a high miscue tendency and it mushrooms too much. Well, I think I should try Moori soft tip, but there hasn't been any around here... sigh...

I'd like to find a nice soft tip, which holds shape well and doesn't mushroom and doesn't miscue. Well, I'd also like to have a billion bucks and a Ferrari as well, and a huge apartment in Manhattan :p
 
mjantti said:
:D

Yeah, I know. I'm a freak. I've used both and like them both. Le Pro is soft and I seem to play very well with soft tips, but I don't like Le Pro because it has a high miscue tendency and it mushrooms too much. Well, I think I should try Moori soft tip, but there hasn't been any around here... sigh...

I'd like to find a nice soft tip, which holds shape well and doesn't mushroom and doesn't miscue. Well, I'd also like to have a billion bucks and a Ferrari as well, and a huge apartment in Manhattan :p
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Hey mjantti,

You probably have, but I'll ask anyway. Have you tried Triangle tips? I was having a real problem with miscues and Mike Webb recommended Triangle tips which, to this day, I'm forever grateful. Much cheaper than Moori and I hardly ever miscue anymore. Great bang for the buck in my opinion.

Regards,
Dave
 
DDKoop said:
Hey mjantti,

You probably have, but I'll ask anyway. Have you tried Triangle tips? I was having a real problem with miscues and Mike Webb recommended Triangle tips which, to this day, I'm forever grateful. Much cheaper than Moori and I hardly ever miscue anymore. Great bang for the buck in my opinion.

Regards,
Dave
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Yes, I've had Triangle tips on my cues but for some reason I haven't used them for years... Thanks for a reminder Dave !
 
mjantti said:
Yes, I've had Triangle tips on my cues but for some reason I haven't used them for years... Thanks for a reminder Dave !
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Anytime. I don't know if they have changed since you last used them but I think you will be pleasantly surprised with them.

Dave
 
drivermaker said:
mjant Well said:
Since you can't vote for George again, would you be willing to vote for one of his brothers if they run? That's the only way you'll get those things.... :p
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Too bad, I can't vote for George... or vote the other guy either... as a Finn, they wouldn't let to vote. Well, maybe my ballot would be counted in Florida if my card would be punched for George :D
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vapoolplayer said:
i use moori quicks as well. i'm always in the market for new things though. where can you find the molavias and how much are they? also, do they glaze over as quick as the moori? i've found that the only complaint i have with the moori is that you have to constantly check to make sure it hasn't glazed over.

thanks
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I got mine on ebay (cuemaster98); they were running a special and I gave it a shot. If you want more contact info I'll pm it to you.

However, I'm sorry to say that this tip does indeed glaze over, perhaps even quicker than the mooris. Here's what I do to combat this phenomenon: chalk meticulously! I stand the cue on it's bumper, and using a fresh cube I first grind the edges with a ring of chalk, pressing the chalk gently at an angle against the edge of the crown and turning the cue slowly. Then I paint the chalk onto the rest of my tip going from center of the dome outwards (downwards, so as to not lift the layers), turning the cue as I go. This I do at the start of every game, but in between shots I just quickly do a brush-up.

Sorry for the chalking lesson, I hope you don't take it the wrong way but I used to grind and tap and pick the glazed-over mooris until I realized that's a good way to go through a tip in less than a month.

-Roger
 
mjantti said:
I'd like to find a nice soft tip, which holds shape well and doesn't mushroom and doesn't miscue.
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I'm sure you heard this before, but here goes: use a hard tip!

Honestly, a soft tip (by definition) won't hold shape well, and will mushroom like a mutha unless you clamp the shit out of it first, in which case voila! you'd have a hard tip. They shouldn't be more prone to miscueing, however...

I've heard good things about the Sniper tip (made by Tiger), that it's pretty soft but holds shape relatively well. I'm sure it's not as soft as you'd like it to be though.

-Roger
 
I found a couple of links...

Says made in Japan and...
"We are now ready for internet PayPal ,person who live in the U.S.A and Canada. You can order from small quantity (be expreessed in terms of ten). Please tell us the hradness and the quantity of tips you want,and your adress in details. We will send you invoice and as soon as we confirm your money in PayPal,we will send your tips..."

http://www.molavia.com/eng/

1/2 way down page $40.00 each...
http://www.headspot-billiards.com/acces-cuetips.htm

http://www.customcuesandtips.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=2_19
 
As someone who does 99% of the tip jobs for the Pool League where I live, I've put on and also used quite a few tips. For the price, I'm really liking the Everest medium tips, made by tiger I believe. Hercules are nice also. I've had a few Talismans and they really sucked. No two Le Pro tips are the same as far as I can tell.
 
If you are looking for a very hard tip and the hardness is the only problem you have been having with Moori, may I suggest Moori P (Power). It is the next harder grade above Moori Q.

When Moori III came out, they intended to offer a tip which would hold chalk a bit better than the older version. The Moori III is therefore a little bit softer than the Moori I and Moori II. In consideration for those who love a very hard tip, Moori P was added to the Moori III line.

Moori P is supposed to be a tip designed for breaking. It does not say Moori III P but merely Moori P on the face of the tip.

Moori P is also made of 11 layers of pigskin and is a bit lighter in color.

Molavia has been around in Japan for quite some time now. They were avaliable long before Moori III made its debut. Molavia was indeed a more expensive tip than Moori in Japan a few years ago. I am not sure about the price now as Molavia is really not that popular in Japan.

Personally, I find the Moori III Q and Moori P to hold chalk better than the Molavia. As far as I know, almost all the professional players in Japan and Taiwan who play with layer tips play with Moori tips. I am not aware of anyone playing with Molavia.

Richard
 
Funny. I few days ago I was never heard of Molavia tip before. Yesterday went to the pool club... and they had some Molavia tips there ! :) Now, as I need to change the tip soon, I might go for Moori III medium, a Molavia or a Triangle. I think I might go for the Moori...

Btw, at our club Mooris and Molavias are 15 euros each. Which is around $18...
 
mjantti said:
Funny. I few days ago I was never heard of Molavia tip before. Yesterday went to the pool club... and they had some Molavia tips there ! :) Now, as I need to change the tip soon, I might go for Moori III medium, a Molavia or a Triangle. I think I might go for the Moori...

Btw, at our club Mooris and Molavias are 15 euros each. Which is around $18...
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Really good price. Thanks for bringing up the value of the dollar too :-)
 
mjantti said:
:D

Well, I think I should try Moori soft tip, but there hasn't been any around here... sigh...
I'd like to find a nice soft tip, which holds shape well and doesn't mushroom and doesn't miscue.

I've tried many different tips (I do cue repairs) and I use Moori Slow (soft) tips on my cues. It's my favorite tip of all the tips i've ever used.
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A Word On Tips

Hello,

I do 90% of the cue work in my area for the game room players and the APA. I do Moori's for $25 plus clean the shaft and remove nicks. I go through a bunch of Moori tips and have not had any complaints. I use the medium Moori 95% of the time. I have only had problems with the Moori slow (soft) delaminating. I have no complaints with the Triangle tip if you press them to reduce the mushrooming effect. Around my area these are the two most used tips. The Moori will miscue if you do not chaulk up every other shot but the hit is very consistant. The lepro tips are not to bad if you compress them but most prefer the triangle. This is just my experience of doing tips for about the past six years.
 
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