money game king vs money tournament king

With all due respect to the living legend Efren Reyes, I think Yang has to be the favorite right now playing Reyes 9 or 10ball. Rotation and one pocket I would make Efren the favorite.
 
long race, big stakes, even money

NOBODY touches Efren, ANY game

If Yang wants it, he needs to hang around Manilla a little longer with about 25k, Efren backs down from nobody

people forget, when fillipinos speak about Dennis being the best at cash and Ronnie being the best at rotation and such and such a player being the best at whatever.....

it's all really a discussion about second place

it's a given over there, a given, that Efren is King at cash and tournaments, all games
 
and when you hear about Efren losing now and again, it's always giving weight

the world's best all demand weight from him, it's ridiculous

nobody wants him even
 
smashmouth said:
long race, big stakes, even money

NOBODY touches Efren, ANY game

If Yang wants it, he needs to hang around Manilla a little longer with about 25k, Efren backs down from nobody

people forget, when fillipinos speak about Dennis being the best at cash and Ronnie being the best at rotation and such and such a player being the best at whatever.....

it's all really a discussion about second place

it's a given over there, a given, that Efren is King at cash and tournaments, all games
I don't know for sure who is better at money games, and to be honest I find it funny too, but Efren has openly said that though he can beat dennis in tourney matches consistently he won't play him high money games because dennis is the 'undisputed money game king' of the phillipenes.
 
smashmouth said:
sometimes all you need is one and only one contest, period, that simple

like when the Colts beat the Bears, no doubt there who the better team was, or when Tyson was smashing guys in the ring during his prime

obviously in pool, years of big wins over the best is the standard by which the best are measured but I say again, from time to time, on some rare occassions you just need one long, fair match

I don't see why everyone is finding this Yang win so tough to swallow

Because people here are not that easy to jump in the bandwagon. When someone beats Yang one time, can we say that that person who defeated him is already considered the best?
 
I think if 9 or 10 ball $ games were always a race to 30 and players played each other a set a day, everyday... i would have to say that yang, efren, alex, and dennis would have the highest winning precentages.
 
Efren may be better player overall than Yang, but can he achieve higher B&R percentage than him in a long race?
I don't care how many magical shots he can perform. The key to winning long 9ball matches is B&R percentage...
 
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BazookaJoe said:
I refuse to get pumped over such matchups until they get an American to play.


who would you back to play alex, yang, van van, dennis, alcano or efren 10 ahead ? 10 ball.
 
Hey Joe, like what cheemagun asked you, who would you back up against those Filipino players?

Put up or shut up!!!

Bayawak aka tirador....
 
cheemagun said:
who would you back to play alex, yang, van van, dennis, alcano or efren 10 ahead ? 10 ball.

Guys who make $50k a year can't back anyone.

But I'd say Archer is just as likely to kick ass as anyone in that group.
 
Bayawak said:
Hey Joe, like what cheemagun asked you, who would you back up against those Filipino players?

Put up or shut up!!!

Bayawak aka tirador....

Read my post, you sh#t stirrer.
 
There are some ....

First, I would insist that both players use THEIR OWN MONEY, that way it is a
REAL money game, and they FEEL THE PAIN if they lose.

Second, a neutral site would have to be chosen.

Third, table conditions agreed upon.

Then I would offer up Johnny Archer, Rodney Morris, Corey Deuel, and maybe even Earl, and maybe Gabe.

It would be interesting to have 5-6 players from each side, and play round robin sets (best 3 out 5, race to 11, 8, 9, and 10 ball) and see who came out on top. We could call it the 'Parica Cup'.
 
Joe,

It doesn't have to be big money. It can be done in fun, like you will not post a thread for a week if you lose, or something silly like that.

Archer had tried that and he did very well indeed against Django. He even broke and ran the whole first set against Django. Well, Django came up to him and asked him to double the bet, Archer declined, and Django proceeded to beat him and win the money.

So you see, my friend, you can put up anybody against these guys, and we won't even break a sweat!!!

You got my drift???
 
smashmouth said:
sometimes all you need is one and only one contest, period, that simple

like when the Colts beat the Bears, no doubt there who the better team was, or when Tyson was smashing guys in the ring during his prime

obviously in pool, years of big wins over the best is the standard by which the best are measured but I say again, from time to time, on some rare occassions you just need one long, fair match

I don't see why everyone is finding this Yang win so tough to swallow

The Amang Parica VS Efren Reyes match-up. That settled a lot of things.
 
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Bayawak said:
Joe,

It doesn't have to be big money. It can be done in fun, like you will not post a thread for a week if you lose, or something silly like that.

Archer had tried that and he did very well indeed against Django. He even broke and ran the whole first set against Django. Well, Django came up to him and asked him to double the bet, Archer declined, and Django proceeded to beat him and win the money.

So you see, my friend, you can put up anybody against these guys, and we won't even break a sweat!!!

You got my drift???

I'd be happy to make a friendly "fun" wager such as this anytime.
How do you propose to make these players cater to our little whim?
 
smashmouth said:
and when you hear about Efren losing now and again, it's always giving weight

the world's best all demand weight from him, it's ridiculous

nobody wants him even

I don't believe that Dennis or Ronnie gets weight from Efren. I don't think he spots Yang either. We are talking 9-ball and rotation- of course, everyone knows one pocket is a different matter all together. In case people get me wrong, I love Efren and believe that he is the best all around player ever. I just don't think that it is easy for him to beat Dennis or Yang right now, playing 9-ball.
 
Before the Orcullo vs. Yang match, mostly everyone favored Orcullo and talked about this match making him the undeniable money game king of the world. If he had won, there would of been no talk of an "out of form" Yang, or the need for more than one match to establish the true best. That's not very fair to Yang. Everyone has it set in their minds that the Phillipine players are by far the best in the world, and this just goes to show you that no challenge match will change what people want to believe. Isn't the whole point of an extremely long race spread out over several days to eliminate any luck, bad rolls, or 'bad days' from the equation? I think Yang deserves the title and respect that went with the match, and he should only have to defend it under his terms when he wants to. There's no need for him to prove any further that he's the best 9ball money player around nowadays.
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
Because people here are not that easy to jump in the bandwagon. When someone beats Yang one time, can we say that that person who defeated him is already considered the best?[/QUOTE

If someone proved that they deserve to challenge him by beating just about every other top player for $, then I wouldn't have a problem with that. If it is a long race under equal conditions. Of course, there may be some debate, but I don't think it would be out of line for someone to say that this person is the best, if they defeated Yang and everyone else in long races. I am not saying Yang is the best, but as far as $, he has to be at the top right now. Nobody seems to be eager to challenge him playing 9-ball.
 
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