Money...Money...Money....

[drivermaker]

The year 2004 is now half over, and for anyone interested in $$$ stats here are the top 10 for various sports:

PGA TOUR:
1. Phil Mickelson - $4,908,323 2. Vijay Singh - $4,717,635
3. Ernie Els - $3,290,057 4. Tiger Woods - $2,950,060
5. Adam Scott - $2,915,670 6. Sergio Garcia - $2,728,082
7. Retief Goosen - $2,327,292 8. Stuart Appleby - $2,234,975
9. Davis Love III - $2,204,313 10. Steve Flesch - $2,159,244
20. Jeff Maggert - $ 1,512,582

LPGA TOUR:
1. Annika Sorenstam - $1,054,654 2. Grace Park - $770,730
3. Christie Kerr - $695,750 4. Lorena Ochoa - $581,069
5. Mi Hyun Kim - $568,138 6. Se Ri Pak - $501,840
7. Jennifer Rosales - $404,978 8. Karrie Webb - $404,561
9. Juli Inkster - $387,354 10. Shi Hyun Ahn - $346,516
20. Meg Mallon - $247,194

ATP (Men's Tennis)
1. Roger Federer - $2,150,905 2. Guillermo Coria - $1,567,839
3. Gaston Gaudio - $1,300,049 4. Carlos Moya - $1,016,101
5. Andy Roddick - $985,582 6. Marat Safin - $791,761
7. Tim Henman - $766,132 8. Lleyton Hewitt - $734,496
9. David Nalbandian - $661,470 10. Juan Chela - $542,410
20. Vincent Spadea - $384,573

PBA TOUR (Bowling)
1. Mika Koivuniemi - $238,590 2. Walter Williams Jr. - $233,950
3. Pete Weber - $206,217 4. Chris Barnes - $191,550
5. Patrick Healey Jr. - $174,600 6. Steve Jaros - $166,300
7. Tom Baker - $134,633 8. Patrick Allen - 118,550
9. Brad Angelo - $115,250 10. Robert Smith - $108,750
20. Michael Haugen - $55,750

MEN'S BILLIARDS
1. Efren Reyes - $61,700 2. Johnny Archer - $41,967
3. Corey Deuel - $30,918 4. Ralf Souquet - $23,465
5. Charlie Bryant - $21,691 6. Mika Immonen - $15,504
7. Robb Saez - $13,090 8. Cliff Joyner - $12,270
9. Santos Sambajon - $12,035 10. Ching-Shun Yang - $11,750
20. Alok Kumar - $6,750

WPBA (Women' Billiards)
1. Allison Fisher - $21,300 2. Jeanette Lee - $21,293
3. Karen Corr - $16,200 4. Helena Thornfeldt - $11,050
5. Ga-Young Kim - $7,375 6. Sarah Rousey - $6,465
7. Vivian Villareal - $6,400 8. Tracie Hines - $5,221
9. Jeannie Seaver - $5,000 10. Jennifer Barretta - $4,600
20. Melissa Herndon - $3,200

 

[satman]

Thanks Driver, My little boy turns 7 tomorrow. I think I'll take him to the golf course and buy him some clubs, then come home, break his cue, and take a sledge hammer to the pool table. Well maybe not, he's pretty smart for a kid, I think he'll be able to see the difference. Sam

 

[predator]

Golfers get more than tennis players?

This is a crazy world indeed!

 

[Nott]

Couldn't find a list with just 2004 numbers, but here's the top 10 earners in Snooker for the season 2003/04 (prizemoney only, using todays currency)

1. Ronnie O'Sullivan - $ 914,242
2. Stephen Hendry - $ 503,561
3. Paul Hunter - $ 409,770
4. John Higgins - $ 395,746
5. Jimmy White - $ 392,195
6. Matthew Stevens - $ 371,889
7. Mark J. Willams - $ 359,869
8. Graeme Dott - $ 338,105
9. Ken Doherty - $ 283,469
10.Peter Ebdon - $ 240,034

Unfortunately the prize money has gone considerably down the last few years.. Top 10 this season net $ 4,208,884. 2002/3 = $ 5,352,871. 2001/02 = $ 6,437,759

 

[sjm]

The year 2004 is now half over, and for anyone interested in $$$ stats here are the top 10 for various sports:


WPBA (Women' Billiards)
1. Allison Fisher - $21,300 2. Jeanette Lee - $21,293
3. Karen Corr - $16,200 4. Helena Thornfeldt - $11,050
5. Ga-Young Kim - $7,375 6. Sarah Rousey - $6,465
7. Vivian Villareal - $6,400 8. Tracie Hines - $5,221
9. Jeannie Seaver - $5,000 10. Jennifer Barretta - $4,600
20. Melissa Herndon - $3,200

Great post, but I wonder how you computed the numbers. Here's my computation for Allison Fisher's YTD earnings:

WPBA Delta Classic 9,000
Atlanta Open 3,300
WPBA San Diego

 

[sjm]

The year 2004 is now half over, and for anyone interested in $$$ stats here are the top 10 for various sports:

WPBA (Women' Billiards)
1. Allison Fisher - $21,300 2. Jeanette Lee - $21,293
3. Karen Corr - $16,200 4. Helena Thornfeldt - $11,050
5. Ga-Young Kim - $7,375 6. Sarah Rousey - $6,465
7. Vivian Villareal - $6,400 8. Tracie Hines - $5,221
9. Jeannie Seaver - $5,000 10. Jennifer Barretta - $4,600
20. Melissa Herndon - $3,200

Oops, hit submit by accident:

As I was saying, great post, but my computation for Allison Fisher YTD earnings is as follows:

WPBA Delta Classic 9,000
Atlanta Open 3,300
WPBA San Diego 9,000
Amway Cup 10,000
BCA Open 7,500
WPBA Midwest Classic 9,000
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Total YTD 47,800

That's more than double the figure you've indicated.

 

[gwvavases]

Oops, hit submit by accident:

As I was saying, great post, but my computation for Allison Fisher YTD earnings is as follows:

WPBA Delta Classic 9,000
Atlanta Open 3,300
WPBA San Diego 9,000
Amway Cup 10,000
BCA Open 7,500
WPBA Midwest Classic 9,000
------
Total YTD 47,800

That's more than double the figure you've indicated.

Karen Corr has got to be more than that also. She won $15,000 for winning the WPBA BCA 9-Ball Championship alone. Surely she finished in the money in a number of other tournaments.

 

[drivermaker]

Oops, hit submit by accident:

As I was saying, great post, but my computation for Allison Fisher YTD earnings is as follows:

WPBA Delta Classic 9,000
Atlanta Open 3,300
WPBA San Diego 9,000
Amway Cup 10,000
BCA Open 7,500
WPBA Midwest Classic 9,000
------
Total YTD 47,800

That's more than double the figure you've indicated.

I just took it from AZ's money list to date...need to get on Mike's butt for an update. The WPBA site also has a different figure but it's not much better than AZ's. It was last updated in May. All of the other one's are from their respective official websites.

 

[Lmarr9]

Great figures - whether they are correct or not they still look sad compared to other sports.

Question is - as far as pool goes -

WHAT ARE WE DOING WRONG OR NOT DOING ????? Any suggestions ?

Lisa

 

[sjm]

I just took it from AZ's money list to date...need to get on Mike's butt for an update.

No need to give Mike any crap, Drivermaker. Mike does a fantastic job. Actually, my figure of 47,800 for Fisher's YTD earnings is too low, anyway. There was a tournament somewhere around Feb 1 in Nanuet, NY, that Allison won, but I omitted it since I didn't know how much she won. Her actual earnings through early June is likely in the 50 - 55K range.

Your point is still made, pool players aren't getting a large slice of the pie when it coes to sports earnings. The sports of golf and tennis have endeared themselves to corporate America by projecting the right image over a long period of time. Pool may do the same one day. We can only hope.

 

[drivermaker]

Great figures - whether they are correct or not they still look sad compared to other sports.

Question is - as far as pool goes -

WHAT ARE WE DOING WRONG OR NOT DOING ????? Any suggestions ?

Lisa

I can understand why in golf and tennis, because they have much larger crowds, more sponsors, and more T.V. time for advertisers. But bowling tournaments don't have the capacity for many more patrons than pool tournaments...where in the hell are THEY getting all of that prize money? I think someone within the pool industry needs to take some lessons from bowling since they're more closely linked in a lot or areas.

 

[sjm]

Great figures - whether they are correct or not they still look sad compared to other sports.

Question is - as far as pool goes -

WHAT ARE WE DOING WRONG OR NOT DOING ????? Any suggestions ?

Lisa

Lisa, this subject is large, so let’s restrict our consideration of the subject to the most important pool event of the pool year in America, the BCA Open. What makes it the most important event is that nearly 10,000 amateurs are in the same venue while the pro event is played, giving the pro players their single greatest access to their fan base.

I attended the BCA Open this year, and for a moment, I’m going to pretend that I was a potential sponsor of pool. This is what I saw:

Pros Don’t Dress Well Enough Between Matches
No doubt, there are more than a few exceptions to this rule, but the sloppy dress of the pro competitors when they aren’t playing matches is unfortunate. Even in the tournament room, some pros were dressed in T-shirts, baseball caps, and sweats. It’s a little tough to take them too seriously when they don’t seem to be taking themselves very seriously.

Pro Players Don’t Do Enough to Interact with the Fans
Pro players have lots of down time during the BCA Open, especially in the early days of the BCA event, but few of them take the trouble to interact significantly with the thousands of amateur participants in the BCA events by spending some time in the amateur tournament rooms. There also tends to be some downtime after a pro has been eliminated but before they go home, and few use the opportunity to interact with the amateur players. Such interaction may be less important once pool has made it, but until then it is critical.

Way Too Much Gambling, and not Always on the Level
At the BCA Open in Vegas, amateurs gambled with amateurs, amateurs gambled with pros, and pros gambled with pros. Some of the action took place on the bar tables at the Riviera, some of it at the nearby Cue Club. Sharking and other types of gamesmanship were frequently on display, raising questions about the integrity of some of the participants.

You Could Watch Some of the World’s Best Players for Free
The “action games” between top pros at the Cue Club (which could be viewed for free) generated as much talk as any of the matches in the BCA Open. Free shuttles to the Cue Club were available. I’m sure that there are many golf fans wouldn’t attend a golf tournament if they could travel one mile and watch the world’s best competing for huge money for free. The pros are, quite simply, devaluing their own product by giving fans a choice between paying for it and getting it for free.

Way too much Cigarette Smoke and Beer
A lot of cigarettes were smoked and an enormous amount of beer was consumed by the playing participants at the BCA Open. Most of the smoking was done indoors. The halls in the Riviera were, consequently, horribly smoky, reminiscent of the poolrooms of the 1960’s, and would have turned off any potential sponsor, or at very least, led them to the conclusion that pool has yet to evolve past its very “smoky” past.

As a potential sponsor, if that’s my assessment, I’m not dying to invest in the sport.

 

[catscradle]

Thanks Driver, My little boy turns 7 tomorrow. I think I'll take him to the golf course and buy him some clubs, then come home, break his cue, and take a sledge hammer to the pool table. Well maybe not, he's pretty smart for a kid, I think he'll be able to see the difference. Sam

I suggest you take the advice that I was given when my first sons were born. "Teach them to kick field goals".